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Old 07-09-2010, 01:06 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Default Re: Haa Haa who is growing one?

The name is Hawai'ian and means "short", in modern Hawai'ian it's spelled Ha'a ha'a, pronounced with a glottal spot between each of the two sets of A's. It is actually extremely rare, I don't think there are any known plants left in Hawai'i. I saw some a while ago on the mainland and took a few photos, but at the time I did not know anything about Hawai'ian bananas so it didn't mean anything special to me, and I didn't know what to look for in it to know if it was true to type or anything, and my photos from that day are not detailed enough to tell now. It is possible the one on the mainland is the true form, and that it was introduced from Hawai'i sometime in the last 50 years or so when it was still around in Hawai'i. However, it's also possible that it's not the true form from Hawai'i, but a dwarf sport that occurred on the mainland. What is called 'Red Iholena'/'Red Iholene' is the true to type Hawai'ian cultivar 'Iholena Lele'. 'White Iholena'/'White Iholene' is a less colorful sport of 'Iholena Lele' that occurred on the mainland, so it's possible that a dwarf sport of the 'White Iholena' is what is going as 'Ha'a Ha'a' on the mainland. I would like to go back to Florida sometime soon to check this (and other things) out. There is not really a good solid reference that I know of, at least not a plant in Hawai'i, that it can be compared too. However it's also very possible that there are some in Hawai'i that I am just not aware of.

In any case, Banana Bunchy Top Virus along and corm borers with neglect has really taken a hard hit on the Hawai'ian traditional banana varieties and there are not too many left compared to what was around 200 years ago, even 50 years ago.

As for color, 'Iholena Lele' has a somewhat colorful inflorescence with a red peduncle and rachis, and the flesh is a light orange, but certainly no where near the really-orange fleshed bananas.

Here is the plant in reference at the Fruit and Spice Park in Homestead, FL.
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