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Old 02-17-2014, 07:27 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Default Re: Musa itinerans var. kavalanensis seeds now available at Trebrown.com

Hi Frank,
Let me say that with regards to taxonomy, I'm more of a splitter than a lumper. That is – if a very similar species is from a totally different provenance, I would prefer to give it a subspecies epithet that identifies it as a different provenance. Example: Musa balbisiana var. liukiuensis coming from the Ryukyu.

If you work in the field you tend to look for how different things are, if you work in a laboratory you're looking for similarities.

Everyone will agree that a St. Bernard is a very different dog than a Chihuahua yet they're both called Canis lupus.

With regards to plants, everyone is keen to pick on the slightest little difference to suggest it's something different. For me, I just like to know from what provenance it originates from. After all, this is a good indicator to the plant's preferences – like it's cold-hardiness for example.

But that's the problem I have with Musa insularimontana. I don't think it is from a different provenance. But I do think it has some minor differences, but is this enough to call it something different? I guess the name, for want of a basic identification should be called: Musa itinerans var. insularimontana. That way, any that are grown in cultivation won't be confused with the others.

Yes! I have plants growing side-by-side, but I don't have them flowering, and I can see little difference. I think it best that I show you pictures from wild specimens.

I'll put Musa insularimontana pictures on the left and similar Musa itinerans var. formosana pictures to the right. (I'll put a caption under each picture just in case you get confussed.



insularimontana fruits | formosana fruits


Musa insularimontana quite yellow looking | This is a very unusual (almost completely yellow Musa itinerans var. formosana bud from high elevation.


insularimontana fruits almost like var kavalanensis but not all like this | formosana fruits very red


insularimontana fruits | formosana fruits


insularimontana | formosana


insularimontana stems are few and well spaced | formosana grows in massive groups and not so well spaced


insularimontana - this is a lonesome individual I found in a mountain ravine | formosana


insularimontana - this and the next few are in the dissused yam paddy on Red Head mountain | formosana - can grow very tall


insularimontana | formosana high elevation in conifer forest


insularimontana | formosana high elevation plants often lose the bright red colour on the stem and fruits


insularimontana | formosana high elevation
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