obdiah

thanks Richard
I am aware of that but growing bananas in the foothills of the north Carolina mountains is a rather poor practice also but I do it and manage to fruit a few now and then poor bananas are better than no bananas and in a short growing season timing is ultra critical if you expect fruit
and bananas on their on could care less about timing they usually bloom when the darn well please I am doing the best I can in a difficult environment and seem to be making some progress its just a hobby and I love pushing the envelope to the exstreams so I will ask again does any one know of any info on the subject? just seeking knowledge no since doing research again that's already been done

D L Moody quote
One day a lady criticized D. L. Moody for his methods of evangelism in attempting to win people to the Lord. Moody’s reply was "I agree with you. I don’t like the way I do it either. Tell me, how do you do it?" The lady replied, "I don’t do it." Moody retorted, "Then I like my way of doing it better than your way of not doing it."