figured I would update this one.
still don't think its gros michal. the plant looks almost identical to my dwarf reds I bought from pukpukz. comparing plants of near identical size. leaves are almost identical, round and wide, they curl upward at the tips. even water sits on the leaves the same. the petioles are almost identical shape and color. the p-stem has the same stature and diameter, very thick looking at the base husky looking. the only difference I see is the lack of red or should I say there is not but half again the color red on these compared to the others. even the mid ribs lack the red color, more of a slight pinkish hew very slight. red at the top edges of the petiole and down at the base but the rest is very pale. it gets the same amount of sun as the others.
bought this from florida hills nursery supposed to be a gros michal. none the less a very very impressive and pretty plant.