crusader657

Yes, Saba is a far better prospect. Unfortunately the whole business of buying seeds on ebay has gone to pot as there are so many Chinese sellers flogging all sorts of weird and wonderful unicorn-type plant seeds to the unsuspecting public, making huge profits on an untraceable commodity, and once they discovered that Ingens was so expensive they jumped on that bandwagon. Some of the current European sellers may well reside in China and have simply altered their declared home country. You can often buy Ingens seeds from rarepalmseeds.com in Germany and I know for sure that Tobias runs a very straight-dealing business having bought many seeds from them. He and his good lady have an enviable, cast iron reputation dealing in numerous types of rare seeds, many of which are obscure types of palm that purists and collectors prize very highly. There is no way for ordinary folk like us to check the other sellers so we have to rely on trust.
I had a seedling Saba and it simply rocketed away, with a big fat p-stem and lush, strong leaves. It's a beautiful strain. Sadly I killed it by overwatering the first winter, and have been trying to replace it ever since. At least if you buy one of those it isn't such a holy grail as Ingens, so not as highly priced. I lost a £30 plant, not a £1000 one. If you weren't there when the Ingens seeds were harvested then you can only rely on reputation. How long would it take until your 'Ingens' seeds were provably genuine or not?