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Originally Posted by harveyc
Chong, there was a long heated discussion about California Gold here at IBS which is where Jon got those comments from. It got ugly, IMO, and I'd rather not see that all brought up again. Most people that have California Gold and Dwarf Orinoco noted differences. I don't know of anyone that has made such a comparison with Texas Star, on the other hand. It's great that you had an apparent good experience with Ty Ty recently, but many people have been ripped off by them.
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I know about the discussions about the CA Gold. But my only point in bringing this up is because it seems that one vendor chooses to name his banana one thing, another vendor can't name his banana differently. In other words, the name CA Gold is no more a variety than the Texas Star, based on Bigdog's premise. The fact that Jeff Earl has more credibility with his customers than Ty Ty Nursery doesn't make his banana a variety, and Ty Ty's is not. TTN has been selling Texas Star since 1984, and I believe that's a lot longer than Jeff selling his CA Gold.
And how do we know if the Texas Star is an Orinoco if nobody wants to buy it from the only place that sells it? Or, am I to understand that there are members of this organization that actually bought, raised, and fruited one, so, in fact, can compare it with an Orinoco? To begin with, I posted photos of the pups and corm that I received from TTN. Has anyone bothered to see if they look like an Orinoco? I have. And they don't. At least not like the Orinocos that I got from Agristarts.
I clearly underscored in the article the author's statement where he called his banana CA Gold because that's what Jeff called it. This, and his later statements, to me implies that author himself does not know of any banana variety with that name. In fact, the author specifically states that in his opinion "it IS an Orinoco (sic)". That is the
true variety because that name is an accepted varietal name in the international banana growing community. Neither "CA Gold", "TX Star", nor "CA Hardy" are.
I realize that 99.9999% of the people out there may be pissed off at Ty Ty Nursery. I will not argue that point. The point I'm arguing about is the reference to the type of banana that I bought.
"The vendor gave the plants I bought that name. So, that's what I called it." Otherwise, in the same context as the CA Gold, what else should I call it?
Remember when a lot of people were complaining about the prices of someone either selling the AeAe or the CA Gold. Calling them greedy, etc. I don't know if I remember correctly, but I thought it was you who said that we should not be calling people names just because the Seller was trying to get as much as he can. That if we thought it was too expensive then just don't buy from him. I think that in some ways this situation is the same.
I wanted to believe that the Texas Star is as cold hardy as what the vendor says it is. That's why I wanted to buy some. I don't care if it is an Orinoco. I just care that it will be hardy as they say it is, and that they will produce edible fruits. If in the end, it proves otherwise, at least I won't be losing sleep, wondering if it was one way or the other.