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Originally Posted by harveyc
I asked Jeff Earl today if he had ever tried growing Texas Star and he said he hadn't. He said he got his banana from Texas in the 80s and it was over 10 years after that before he had heard of Texas Star.
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I've been growing bananas at home here in Seattle since the early 70s. I can assure you that I've read about TX Star since the 70s. Whether or not Jeff has known about TS in the 70s or the 80 or the 90s is really irrelevant to me, or this discussion, because I've acknowledged, time and again, that they appear to have "discovered" their booties independently. I have never claimed one or the other "discovered" their plant ahead of the other. Only that I learned of, and was interested in, TS as early as the 70s. I've only learned about CG in the early 2000s. If you say that Jeff only learned about TS in the 90s, what that tells me is that that's when he heard about it. Just as I'm saying that I learned about TX in the 70s. Also, if I were to believe, and I do,
your statement that Jeff got his banana in the eighties from TX, leads me conclude that TTN found TS ahead of Jeff's "discovery" of his CG. Beyond that, I make no further conclusions.
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Originally Posted by harveyc
I don't believe comparing potted bananas is a reliable way to compare most bananas as watering is more variable, etc. I also think you need to take a banana to fruiting to make a meaningful comparison.
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Harvey,
You asked me where I based my statement that it would appear that the TS was a little more cold hardy than the CG because
you believed no one has ever done a side by side comparison. After I gave you my basis, you now state that you don't believe potted bananas is a reliable way to compare most bananas, and introduced another parameter in your challenge, i.e., "watering is more variable . . . . . needs to . . . . fruiting, etc." I thought you were asking my basis for why I thought one was a little more cold hardy than the other, and nothing about fruitfulness, or superiority of one over the other.
Given the description I wrote that the TS's from TX and the CG were in the same area of the greenhouse, and the TS from TTN was 3-feet to the North of it in the same greenhouse, would it not be safe to assume that when one plant is watered the others in the same area would also be watered? It appears to me that you have a preconceived idea, based on your belief, on how these plants are supposed to behave, and
when shown otherwise, you have to say that there may be other influences to make that happen the way they did. Okay. All I'm saying is that this is what I have. It may be a fluke. But it is what it is, at least for these plants. I have stated before that I do not agree with the adage that "Seeing is Believing". Rather, to me, "Seeing is knowing". It doesn't mean that I don't believe in anything. Rather, it means that I do not have to see it to believe in it, and when I see it then that's what I know.
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Originally Posted by harveyc
I haven't grown Dwarf Orinoco (I would have except Wellspring sent me a mystery banana instead, though I was very happy with the quality of the fruit which was harvested in late December, just 4 months after flowering), but many others have grown it and have reported that California Gold has fruited for them much more reliably.
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Since we're talking about production, and I have not had any of either variety produce any fruit, I
believe you. But I'm hoping that they both would produce well for me (if ever).