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Old 08-07-2009, 06:17 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Default Re: Santa came to TN via California!!!! WAGGIES!!!

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Originally Posted by Randy4ut View Post
Jack, it is a matter of opinion as far as a waggie being the least beautiful palm!!! In mine and many others that grow all types of Trachys, that the waggie is a very desirable palm because of its growth habit. I now have 5 different types of trachycarpus and the waggie is by far the most beautiful in my opinion. As far as losing foliage in 8,5F, I have two fortuneii's that are about 6' of trunk each and had only minor leaf damage this past winter and we saw 6F twice with several others in the single digits. They went one span of over 48 hours of below freezing too. And that was with No protection at all!!! I believe they are alot hardier than folks want to give them credit for...
Sorry, didn't mean it like that. I didn't say it was ugly, but that from all the Tr. the least appealing to me. I like growing impossible and this one's ideal for my climate.

Temps? It also depends. Were they covered with snow? Here the worst frosts are almost exclusively without a snowfleck anywhere. Damn. We lose even peaches to such frosts.
In general, the problem here is that it snows, melts down, freezes, melts down, freezes, ... Still this circle and the plants don't like it either. Sometimes the temps go up in January to 15°C during the day and about 5°C in the night (for a week!) and the plants wake up (even some flowers). All of them. Apples, peaches .. they put the blossoms on (usually only peaches, apples wait longer) and then bang, another frost waves. And so we lose the plants here, not because of the frosts, but because of the conditions they go through. It's crazy this continental climate.

So this might be the difference. Sorry, I didn't really mean to be offensive or anything, it's jsut that that's my experience and I wanted to share it. It's better to give an extra protection even if it is not needed, than to lose the palm...
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