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Old 10-04-2024, 02:42 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Dwarf Cavendish and Not Dwarf Cavendish

I bought 6 dwarf cavendish from an online nursery and now I have doubts. I bought 2, then later 4 plug sized ones from the same online nursery.

The first 2 are now between 2&3' tall, but not dwarf cavendish? Wide spacing between leaves (not dwarf looking), no raid staining on leaves, no red midrib. They are green, darker green on sunny side and lighter on other side, with no frosting/powder on other side.

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The other 4 are now about 1' tall, they look like dwarf cavendish in form, dark green leaves, closely spaced, frosting on underside of leaves, but again, no maroon staining or midrib. Any ideas?

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p.s. I'm new, so if the images don't show I will try again

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Old 10-04-2024, 02:45 PM   #2 (permalink)
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2nd try...



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OK, above is the not dwarf cavendish?

3rd try with what I think are small cavendish, but plain dark green leaves.

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The main images don't seem to load in the gallery, so stuck with thumbnails ;(
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Your pics may be too large. I think 2 MP is the size they need to be.
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FYI, having had a detailed discussion with chatGPT, it appears that (based on all its characteristics and comparisons with other candidates) the most likely candidate for the 'not dwarf cavendish' of taller banana plants (sold as dwarf cavendish) are actually williams cavendish, so not a dwarf variety. The second set are pretty much dwarf cavendish. ChatGPT is a good source for discussing knowledge and research on bananas, but it frequently gets things wrong, so you have to have a good understanding of the topic you want to explore further, or it will just tell you what you want to believe... and its not AI, not even close. There is still no such thing, yet.
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Your pics may be too large. I think 2 MP is the size they need to be.
Agreed. If the files are too big it won't load them but it won't tell you they are too big, they just won't show up in the gallery.

Just use a picture manager program and compress the pics for 'web pages' - I use Microsoft office picture manager (came with the computer) and it works fine, but on that program if you re-size for email, they are really small......and sometimes, depending on the orientation of your camera, you may have to load the pics into the gallery at a 90 degree rotation to the left for them to show up with the correct orientation in the gallery. Strange I know but I got used to it. Maybe other programs are smarter
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Thanks, but all the images are already <1Mb, many <500k. The issue uploading appears to be the capacity of the old website to service requests, and my being in the UK which causing such a slow response and so many TCP connection timeouts, often 2 minutes or more more for a single page to display. As much as I love to read and contribute content to this website it is nearly unusable. Hence my offer to host a read-only version. The likely cause is a software, network or server issue, but the site is not really accessible (my money is on network and server). You can rule out my network as the Uk is geographically small and our internet speeds are good; I'm using a 70Mbit connection with a low contention ratio on the BT network - which itself is nothing special here. At certain times of day the website is more responsive, presumably with the time difference it is the middle of the night in the US and I can actually get a connection while the US sleeps.
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Perhaps something as simple as tweaking the TTL value up on the server would make it instantly more usable
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Perhaps something as simple as tweaking the TTL value up on the server (OS and software if it has a TTL) will make the site instantly more usable. Sorry if this posted twice. It demonstrates my point, just constant timeouts
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lol - ok, I bow to you on the IT stuff, I don’t even know what half that lingo means.
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Good Morning, I see you are in Vancouver. Fairy cold winters there. Do you have a greenhouse? I have been watching Arktopia channel on youtube, and various similar videos. Mostly our Canadian cousins building the well insulated greenhouses, growing bananas in the snow (outside snow, inside warm). Have you seen these?
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Good Morning, I see you are in Vancouver. Fairy cold winters there. Do you have a greenhouse? I have been watching Arktopia channel on youtube, and various similar videos. Mostly our Canadian cousins building the well insulated greenhouses, growing bananas in the snow (outside snow, inside warm). Have you seen these? (3 minutes - still has not posted - 2nd attempt)
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took >5mins to post that reply ;(
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