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07-13-2013, 07:44 AM | #1 (permalink) |
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The nomenclature system used to classify banana cultivars was developed by Norman Simmonds and Kenneth Shepherd in 1955. It classifies cultivated bananas into genome groups, according to the relative contribution of their ancestral wild species, and into subgroups, sets of closely related cultivars. This system eliminates almost all the difficulties and inconsistencies of a taxonomy based on Musa paradisiaca and Musa sapientum. However, due to difficulties in assigning certain cultivars to a subgroup, and to a lesser extent to a group, there are inconsistencies in the way the system has been applied. Adding to the confusion is the continued use of Latin binomials to classify cultivated bananas. Cultivated bananas are unusual in not having a Latin scientific name.
In this system, bananas, at least the ones that are related to Musa acuminata and Musa balbisiana, are classified according to the relative contribution of these species designated by the letter A, for acuminata, and B, for balbisiana. A cultivar is assigned to a genome group according to the number of chromosome sets in its genome (its ploidy) and the species that donated them. Diploid cultivars can belong to the AA or AB genome group, while triploid cultivars fall into three genome groups: AAA, AAB and ABB. Some taxonomists recognize a BBB genome group, but its existence has not been conclusively demonstrated. Tetraploid cultivars are mostly hybrids produced by breeders. Scoring system The system is based on 15 characters that were chosen because they are different in Musa acuminata and Musa balbisiana. Each character is scored on a scale from one (typical Musa acuminata) to five (typical Musa balbisiana). The possible total scores range from a minimum of 15 to a maximum of 75. The expected scores are 15 for AA and AAA, 35 for AAB, 45 for AB, 55 for ABB and 75 for BB. Simmonds & Shepherd's Genome-Based Scoring System Catalog of Musa Accessions Mantained by USDA-ARS TARS USDA-ARS TARS Musa Taxonomic Reference Collection Catalog Bioversity International Bioversity - Annual Report 1998 Bioversity - Annual Report 1999 Bioversity - Annual Report 2000 Bioversity - Annual Report 2002 Musa Genomics: Free text search Musa Germplasm Information System Tropgene Banana Terminology Descriptors for Musa Morphology of banana plant Catalogues A catalogue of wild and cultivated bananas A tribute to the work of Paul Allen Musalogue Papua New Guinea collecting missions 1988-89 Catalogue of introduced and local banana cultivars in the Philippines Pohnpei banana varieties - a work in progress Consultancy report on training in the identification and characterization of banana varieties and development of the banana industry in Pohnpei, Federated States of Micronesia Banana Cultivar Names and Synonyms in Southeast Asia Caribbean Organic banana 2000: Towards an organic banana initiative in the Caribbean Hawaii Bulletin 7 Bulletin 55 Farmer's Bookshelf: Tropical Crop Production in Hawaii Pacific Island Agroforestry - August 2006 ver. 2.2 Pacific Island Agroforestry - February 2007 ver. 1 Pacific Island Agroforestry - Banana and Plantain Queensland’s Department of Agriculture Queensland Government - Department of Agriculture Australian Bananas magazine | Summer 2013-2014 Florida University of Florida University of Florida 1995 University of Florida - Banana and Plantains University of Florida - Banana Growing in the Florida Home Landscape FHIA - Profile & Links Banana research in India Propagating quality planting material to improve plant health and crop performance, key practices for dessert banana, plantain and cooking banana: Illustrated guide Multidisciplinary perspectives on banana (Musa spp.) domestication An update from Papua New Guinea Why Bananas Matter: An introduction to the history of banana domestication Musa èŠ*蕉属 Please add more links. Have a Great Day
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Re: Links To Help Identify Your Banana
Thanks PR-Giants for the excellent links. However the link to the B genotype does not work.
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Excellent links.
I think it would take a week to fill out the descriptor list for even one banana.
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This pdf file contains a lot of information on banana cultivars. Farmers’ Handbook on Introduced and Local Banana Cultivars in the Philippines
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Brief Description of Banana Cultivars Available from the University of Hawaii Seed Program pdf file Banana and plantain—an overview with emphasis on Pacific island cultivars. pdf file
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Catalogue of introduced and local banana cultivars in the Philippines Bioversity International guide to FHIA bananas http://growables.org/information/Tro...HIAhybrids.pdf Multilingual multiscript plant name database - Sorting Musa Cultivars Banana physicochemical and functional differentiation of dessert and cooking banana during ripening – a key for understanding consumer preferences.
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TARS Musa Catalog.pdf file Pohnpi Bananas A Photo Collection CAROTENOID-RICH VARIETIES By Lois Englberger and Adelino Lorens - pdf file The banana cultivar checklist is a list of of banana cultivar names and the groups into which they are classified.
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Ken at HawaiiFruit.net gave me permission to share Big Island Bananas Poster.
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I have that banana poster on my office wall! There are a few errors, of course. FHIA-18 is Bananza and SH-3640 is High Noon. The Pisang Mas doesn't look correct, and is usually called Sucrier here or Kluay Khai. Golden Pillow is an AAB. Putalinga is a Tongan type, not a true Hawaiian Popo'ulu type. Tall Red is the same as Cuban/Jamaican Red as far as I know, and the two Dwarf Reds are probably the same. Although people here seem to have or at least believe the Tall Reds come in 3 different sizes. Great poster though.
This is the 2nd (latest) version I think. Hopefully they will do it again and make it larger. |
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Nice thread.............
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Symptoms of banana streak virus (left) and cucumber mosaic virus (right) on the same banana leaf. (Photo: Ben Lockhart, University of Minnesota)
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Illustrated Guide to the Identification of Banana Varieties in the South Pacific - 1995
IDENTIFICATI0N OF VARIETIES Identification of banana varieties is difficult but is essential for choosing the correct type for marketing and for gaining understanding of pest and disease relationships. Identification is made much easier once the observer has developed mental pictures of the different types of bananas. Photographs of varieties are therefore of great assistance and are particularly useful for inexperienced observers trying to identity a variety. Even for experienced observers, they can be a useful additional aid, particularly where large numbers of varieties are being considered and for those varieties not often seen. This guide attempts to cover most of the banana varieties likely to be encountered in the South Pacific region. With this information, the ability to identity illegally introduced clones or the newer ones being evaluated for resistance to black Sigatoka will be enhanced. Identifying varieties by deduction is far easier than by induction. That is to say, if the full range of varieties in a locality is known, for example by reference to photographs, then a specimen with unique morphological features can be identified readily. However, difficulties occur when plants grown in an environment markedly different from that to which the observer is accustomed are presented for identification. Problems in identification also arise when the observer is exposed to a new variety, and no bunches are available for inspection. To overcome these problems the following steps are proposed. First compare the variety to be identified with the photographs. Next, if further clarification is needed, refer to Table 3 and sequentially work through pseudostem height, distinguishing features, black Sigatoka reaction and bunch characteristics.
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That is a bunch of links. I have a couple plants with a ? Of the identity. Wealth of info here.
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WOW... good bump, it's been over 2 years.
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Anyone managed to download the usda tars catalogues? I get an error page.
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If anyone does have it downloaded and can get it to me somehow. I would add it to my server myself and give free access to it as a backup. PM me if you have it saved and wanna try.
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It is working ok now.
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Can you tell me what document/book those terrific identification figures (the scans) are from?
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