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Species Bananas Discussions of all the different wild species of banana (non edible), an aspect of the hobby that deserves its own section.


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Old 03-29-2015, 10:37 AM   #1 (permalink)
 
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Default Brazilian Atlantic Forest Wild Banana

I found this picture............this is about 40km from my house................

I live in São Paulo City...........Brazil..............and this picture is from the Atlantic Forest....................called Serra do Mar...............



I don´t know the species..............but I made some search and I found that they may be Feral species..........but unidentified species..........

I´m not personally convinced that this is a Feral species................

Along the stream one can see that there are more Bananas at the Forest Borders..........

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Old 03-29-2015, 05:39 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Default Re: Brazilian Atlantic Forest Wild Banana

That's a nice shot.
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... I´m not personally convinced that this is a Feral species ...
Very unlikely it is a species, but rather a hybrid. If the bananas are seedless (edible), then it is definitely a hybrid.

It is certainly Feral, bananas originated in the vicinity of Burma long before people were there. Sometime after 1526 edible bananas were brought to the Americas for cultivation.
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Thank You Richard........

Here are some pictures of the Bunch.......





I don´t know what is this species........???
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Looks like a seeded variety, although I've never grown them. Someone here will most likely recognize the flower color.

What settlements are either upstream from that area or in a 15-25 km radius from there?
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Yes...........it seems that have seeds..................of unknown species at least for me...............???

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vd2Gqe6O4Ow

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Maybe it is Musa ornata. It looks like the picture in the wikipedia.
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Maybe it is Musa ornata. It looks like the picture in the wikipedia.
Could be ... someone here might narrow it down to a specific cultivar.

Back to the topic of native vs. feral: if it is M. ornata then certainly it is feral. Here is the GRIN species record for the plant:
Musa ornata information from NPGS/GRIN
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Thank You guys.............it seems that it is Musa ornata............

And Richard you are right...........
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I have a friend who collects fruits and seeds from these forests i have asked him to take some pics of any bananas he comes across.
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I found an Article about invasive plants of Brazil..............

There are two species of Musa listed...........

One is Musa ornata............and the other is Musa rosacea...........

I also found few pictures of Musa rosacea........from Salto Morato...........here in Brazil.........



Source : https://conexaosul2010.wordpress.com...-salto-morato/

I was thinking that the first pictures identified as Musa ornata could be Musa rosacea.............???

The small Flag Leave is specially intresting............

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