Musa Formosana = Musa Basjoo? - Page 3

jmoore · 07-20-2009, 01:40 AM

I've got a large number germinating from Trebrown Nurseries, in fact way too many for my tiny garden to handle. So I'll let you know, I don't have anything to compare them with though.

51st state · 07-21-2009, 01:24 PM

I'm trying, but no joy as yet, and with temps as low as they are here at present it's going to be a slow growing summer, Brrrr.. where's my sweatshirt

Jack Daw · 07-21-2009, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by 51st state

I'm trying, but no joy as yet, and with temps as low as they are here at present it's going to be a slow growing summer, Brrrr.. where's my sweatshirt

Looking at your temps I wonder, what difference there is between your summer and winter.

Just kidding, hope it will warm up for you real soon.

Bob · 07-21-2009, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by 51st state

I'm trying, but no joy as yet, and with temps as low as they are here at present it's going to be a slow growing summer, Brrrr.. where's my sweatshirt

Wow 51st, is 16.3 C your high for the day? It's been a cool summer here and that's been the average low for us here all summer.

jmoore · 07-21-2009, 01:50 PM

The summer has been pretty bad, looks like 3 bad summers in a row.

mrbungalow · 10-08-2014, 07:14 AM

Update from Norway:

Musa Formosana flowers in Bergen... Read about it here. (Use google translate)
Eksotisk bananplante blomstrer | Universitetet i Bergen

PhilMarkey · 10-08-2014, 10:07 AM

This is interesting Erlend! Thank you!

However those larger plants could be Musa itinerans var. formosana, but I think not. Rather more like M. basjoo for me. Besides, the smaller picture to the side showing the purple bud is certainly not formosana, and I don't think that bud is from the same plant in the other picture. I also have to disagree with the text in that Musa itinerans var. formosana is a taller plant than M. basjoo.

I think they may have just used random pictures from different sources to make the article. Which is a shame, because I really would like to see the correct pictures.

Looking at the flower - I would guess Musa yunnanensis or Musa cheesmanii, or Musa balbisiana var. liukiuensis.

Mauro Gibo · 10-08-2014, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by bigdog

I'm pretty sure that Musa balbisiana var. liukiuensis was introduced to Taiwan, so it isn't native there. I have seen a paper about it.

Kev, Matt said that it might be considered to be M. itinerans var. formosana, if I read his post right. According to several printed sources, M. formosana has running rhizomes, like M. itinerans. However, according to Phil Markey, who collected the seeds, it does NOT! Maybe it is an intermediate runner, sort of like how M. basjoo can send out pups a good little ways when mature? I guess there is only one way to find out...germinate these seeds and grow them on!

Frank

As far as I know Musa Basjoo grown in mainland Japan has never been used for fiber. The Japanese fiber banana is the Musa Balbisiana var. liukiuensis just like you said and it isn't cold resistant. Cheers!

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