gtrplr71

I am thinking about trying Milorganite for my container Ice cream I have read a few post about it here and I have had a couple of nursery employees tell me it works well because it no phosphorus. So my question is How much of this is safe to use in a ten gallon container? 1cup? 2 cups? a handfull?
As always thanks in advanced you guys are awesome.
Milorganite

G.W.

Milorganite is the ****.
From Milwaukee that is !!

I've used it and will use it again later in the summer on my turf!!

One cup in a 10 gal would be fine, two might be ok depending on other fertilizers you use. I DON'T put MY hand in that stuff so NO handful.

5-0-1 is kinda low analysis and not the proper ratio for bananas.

Depending on your location palm fertilizer may be available.
Here in Central FL there is a 40lb 4-1-6 at Walnart for the same price as Milorganite.
4+1+6= 11% active ingredient
5+0+1= 6% active ingredient
Do the math and get your monies worth. Clearly 4-1-6 is still low analysis, but a better deal than Milorganite for sure.

Richard would say "Bananas are capable of utilizing 1lb N each year."
Milorganite is 5% N so .05x20=1 so it will require 20lbs/year
A potted banana will need half of this
Milorganite is also 4% iron and this rate of application will likely cause deficiencies of other micronutrients.

Why not find a real fertilizer store and buy some potassium nitrate 15-0-45
Don't wear camo, and no mention of ammonium nitrate or making gunpowder.
Sale of this nitrate is restricted in some areas.

While you're there check out the half price Milorganite.
A local place here sells 50lbs for $7.50 vs Walmart 50lbs $12

you need a bigger pot

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raygrogan

I use Ironite (I think fairly similar to Milorganite?) as a source of iron and other micros mostly, and mostly because a taro guy Del said he liked it. About a year so far, seems good. I use about a cup total fertilizer per 10 gal soil, and about 80% of that is our cheapo 10-20-20 or 16-16-16, the rest Ironite and maybe a little dolomite if pH needs a boost.

gtrplr71

Thanks guys for the input I appreciate your input. Maybe I will save it for the grass my addiction of obtaining different types is getting strong I have an ice cream 7 blood bananas and 2 gros Michel

TRAY

I agree with G.W. it is low. Since bananas are heavy feeders it wouldn't hurt to get a plastic bin, dump it in and mix some other fert in with it. And since Mil is slow release i put like 5lbs pounds of direct release in the mixture also.(BASED ON A 40LB BAG) Not saying u should or have too, it's just the way i do it... In case u missed it, here is a link on the subject.
Using Milorganite on Bananas-For the Ultimate Growth! - Banana Forum - GardenWeb

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G.W.

grass+Milorganite+rain=green

I use it at the bag rate twice a year on turf to make it green +2.
It works better with rain and I'm careful about tracking it in the house.
It does have an odor so I use the whole bag.

NOTE
I'm trying to educate myself on nitrogen loss from different sources of N by different methods of application + environmental conditions.
If someone could comment on nitrogen loss from baked poop pellets, as in best way to apply defined by lowest loss, and worst way as defined by highest loss.
or a link THANKS !!


back to bananas

My real bananas are in the ground. Pots are for sissies or things for sale.

A mature plant in the ground I put 1lb per bag of leaves at least 5 bags per plant. Spread the leaves 3 inch thick, water, spread milorganite, water.
One gallon of urine poured on top will supercharge this deal.
I suspect people OUTSIDE the subtropics would benefit from increases in soil temp associated with hot composting over the root zone of their plants to gain growth period.

This will produce a bit of smell, and a bit of heat, and 2 or 3 real big leaves.
Be ready to give it some real fertilizer again in 3 weeks.

Please do not put 5lbs Miloragnite and a gallon of urine in your potted plant.

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Winter losers, kohala longan, misi luki, 80% jackfruit seedling loss

first bloomers, HUA MOA, DC, D NAMWAH, FHIA 17, KANADARIAN, RAJA PURI, M D NAMWAH

best bunch FHIA 17 , undisclosed

WORST BUNCH hua moa, 2 fingers

gtrplr71

the closest I have found in austin texas to banana fuel is 15 5 10 so I will keep searching

caliboy1994

Banana fuel is a chemical fertilizer. I used it on my plants, and overfertilized, and now a few of them are suffering from micronutrient deficiencies. I think I might switch over to milorganite. How bad is the smell?

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TRAY

It's a bit nasty but no worse then cow manure. Dig a trench around the plant, dump it in, cover with dirt and your good to go!!

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gtrplr71

my gros michel with miloganite has done quite well here is a pick it has done better than the same plant with MG
IMAG1589.jpg picture by gtrplr7 - Photobucket

caliboy1994

How much would I use for an in-ground plant with 5 and a half feet of p-stem?

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TRAY

I use about 3 TO 4 16oz cups, which should last for a couple months since it takes a while to break down. Again, i suggest u add 5 to 10 percent of some other fert that has micro nutrients in with that. I use Ironite, but of course u can use whatever U think is best. I also liquid fert. once a month, and all is good.

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G.W.

by smell I meant I don't store it in the garage yuk

I like using it spread over LOTS of mulch to speed it up.

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winter winners, jackfruit, carambola, hua moa, d namwah, hak ip lychee with pink leaves 2 days before a cold snap eeeek!

Winter losers, kohala longan, misi luki, 80% jackfruit seedling loss

first bloomers, HUA MOA, DC, D NAMWAH, FHIA 17, KANADARIAN, RAJA PURI, M D NAMWAH

best bunch FHIA 17 , undisclosed

WORST BUNCH hua moa, 2 fingers