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Squam256 10-30-2009 04:03 PM

Mangos
 
Yesterday in the chat room I was encouraged to start a thread about mangos. Anyone else here grow them or is maybe interested in them?

I have had a couple of mango trees myself. At one point I had 'Cogshall', 'Glenn', 'Mallika', 'Lancetilla', "Ice Cream', and 'Carrie'. For a number of reasons I no longer have any of those trees in my personal possession anymore but I have started a number of seedlings I plan on grafting.

momoese 10-30-2009 04:05 PM

Re: Mangos
 
Hey Squam, could you post that link again, I turned it off before saving it.

lorax 10-30-2009 04:13 PM

Re: Mangos
 
I grow Tommy Atkins, Keitt, Julie, and Ambajadores / Chupito. The Julies are my fave.

Squam256 10-30-2009 04:18 PM

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momoese, here is the link:

Cultivars


Lorax, do you have any trouble with anthracnose/fungus with Julie? Here in Florida Julie is difficult to grow and get good production from due to the high humidity encouraging fungus growth. Its a very tasty mango though and is popular with Jamaicans especially.

Squam256 10-30-2009 04:28 PM

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Here's another link you might find interesting. Its a series of videos by Dr. Jonathan Crane of the TREC center in Homstead. Each video is short and about a specific cultivar or about tree management:

FruitScapes Video Blog UF/IFAS/TREC

there's a video on grafting mangos at the bottom of this page for those interested:

UF/IFAS Extension: Solutions for Your Life - Institute of Food and Agricultural Sciences

lorax 10-30-2009 04:36 PM

Re: Mangos
 
Squam, I have never had that problem. I'm in high humidity, but my trees are cultured alongside coffee and papaya, and this seems to give them a higher fungal resistance than if they were standing alone. It works the same way for my bananas - a bit of careful culture and detrashing, and I have no problem with Sigatoka although it seems to be endemic in garden plots here.

capthof 10-30-2009 06:14 PM

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Yeah! Mangoes! Love them!
I have six varieties, Carrie, Rosigold, Ice Cream, Cogshall, Malika, and Balies Marvel.
Mango Sorbet, Mango salsa got to have it!

Squam256 10-30-2009 06:19 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by capthof (Post 106161)
Yeah! Mangoes! Love them!
I have six varieties, Carrie, Rosigold, Ice Cream, Cogshall, Malika, and Balies Marvel.
Mango Sorbet, Mango salsa got to have it!


captof, has your Rosigold fruited early? I've read they fruit as early as March.

Also, how long have you had your trees? And how would you rate their flavor/production?

Bailey's Marvel "supposedly" is somewhat cold hardy. At least that's what I've read.

momoese 10-30-2009 06:37 PM

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Forgot to mention I only have Haden growing. This was the first year I harvested fruit from it. Very yummy!

Bch Grl 10-30-2009 09:39 PM

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Hi guys!

I have a Julie and a Lancitilla. Both flowered and fruited this past spring but then a rainey spell caused all the fruit to split and fall! The fruit were about 3" long at the time.

I found the Julie in a friends greenhouse who was no longer able to care for her Orchids and other tropicals. It was severely neglected with few leaves.
Well, 2 years and some better care and it is still only 4 ft tall but also 4ft wide and nicely filled out. Should have some fruit next year!

Had a Nam Doc Mai that was the bigggest "scale" magnet! It was just covered and the Lancitilla was right next to it had none! I was constantly spraying it down with insecticidal soap to keep the scale and sooty mold at bay! It got some rot or fungus and died from the top down.???

Can't wait for next year!

Margie:waving:

Richard 10-30-2009 10:12 PM

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I have Ataulfo and Haden as nursery stock. I would also like to acquire "San Diego Oro".

SoBe Musa 10-30-2009 10:56 PM

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I love mangos(Bananas are my first love thought!)... Here is a little of Déjà vu
We moved to the house in Miami Beach in Feb/2006... that summer we planted 5 mangos and some hibiscus .
A lot of work to do in the house... is going to be a long ride…!a new fence,paint....
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Even my neighbors houses are different …
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SoBe Musa 10-30-2009 11:00 PM

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Jan 2007
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SoBe Musa 10-30-2009 11:16 PM

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Beautiful April 2008

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Squam256 10-30-2009 11:31 PM

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SoBe, what varieties do you have?

SoBe Musa 10-30-2009 11:33 PM

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Jan 2009 : Only one out of 5 plants bloom and produce fruit...

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July 2009
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SoBe Musa 10-30-2009 11:58 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Squam256 (Post 106233)
SoBe, what varieties do you have?

1 is Mangifera indica - Mango Anacardiaceae (the only one to bloom)
1 Fairchild
1 'Emerald' (Florida)
2 'Angie' (Florida)

All purchased at Annual Mango event here is the link :
FairChaild Tropical Garden
Google Image Result for http://www.fairchildgarden.org/uploads/images/Fruit%20Program/Mango%20Festival/manilita.jpg

Squam256 10-31-2009 12:13 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SoBe Musa (Post 106243)
1 Fairchild

Fairchild is an excellent mango. One of my favorites. Its from Panama and is descended from southeast asian mangos. Really great flavor and no fiber. You will like that one if you haven't eaten it yet.

conejov 10-31-2009 07:11 AM

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hey thanks for starting this thread Squam, I learned something for some reason I had it in my head that there were only three different varieties of Mangoes.

Thanks again and keep the info coming.

SoBe Musa 10-31-2009 12:40 PM

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Today Oct/31/2009
The growing was massive this summer.!
Taken from a 12’ ladder.

Sunlight in the backyard is getting limited for the rest of the plants, maybe frequents trimmings will be the way to raise the mangos without limited them growing…
Any suggestions for ways of trimming?
Ideal height for them to keep producing fruit. and best feeding Methods !
Maybe 2010 is going to be the year !!
Thanks,


Is getting a little crowded.
Mangos are catching up with the Praying Hand bananas!


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SoBe Musa 10-31-2009 12:42 PM

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Today Oct/31/2009
The growing was massived this summer.!
Taken from a 12’ ladder.
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Squam256 10-31-2009 12:56 PM

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I would say "ideal" height would be around 12 to 15 feet high. You can prune them at any time but you're going to probably sacrifice some flowering in the process. Normally its recommended that they get pruned after you've picked the last fruit of the season.

As far as how to prune them, you want them to grow 'outward' as opposed to 'upward'. The more branching that occurs, the more fruit the tree is capable of producing.


Quote:

Originally Posted by SoBe Musa (Post 106319)
Today Oct/31/2009
The growing was massive this summer.!
Taken from a 12’ ladder.

Sunlight in the backyard is getting limited for the rest of the plants, maybe frequents trimmings will be the way to raise the mangos without limited them growing…
Any suggestions for ways of trimming?
Ideal height for them to keep producing fruit. and best feeding Methods !
Maybe 2010 is going to be the year !!
Thanks,


capthof 10-31-2009 03:05 PM

Re: Mangos
 
Yes the Rosigold Blooms early and the fruit has to be thinned to improve quality and size.
My largest is a Carrie, it produces great and the flavor is awesome.
The Balies marvel is still in the growing process only seven feet high, the soil got a little to acid and stumped the growth this past season, should be on track now.

Here it a link to pruning:
Mango Pruning
Most everyone is keeping their mangoes topped out at 15 to twenty feet, if they get bigger it is hard to harvest the fruit.
Also I have heard that it is best to use a high potassium fertilizer, 0- 0- 60 to improve blossoms and fruit quality.

BB73 11-01-2009 05:52 AM

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HAs anbody of you heard of the Mango "Nanook"? It's mentioned in this link (first paragraph of the email below) and is supposed to be cold hardy and tolerate some frost.
But it's the only source I read about this Mango....
Hardy Mangoes and other novelties (fwd)

momoese 11-01-2009 01:08 PM

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Now I'm inspired to go out and prune my tree properly!

Here's a question for knowledgeable mango growers. When my tree flowers the branches get so heavy they flip upside down exposing the bottoms of the leaves to the sun which then scorches them. This year I put stakes in the ground and supported every flower bunch to keep them upright. It worked great and I got plenty of fruits. Is this normal or there something wrong with my little tree. It's about 4 feet tall and not very stout. The first couple years I had to stake the trunk just to keep it upright. Maybe my bad pruning led to weak branches that can't support the flowers and fruit?

capthof 11-01-2009 03:07 PM

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Mitchel;
What type is it?
Sounds like what ever fertilizer you are using is working great!
Scott

momoese 11-01-2009 03:30 PM

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It's a Haden. It has only been fed once a year with a tea made from compost, chicken manure, and a general purpose EB-Stone organic plant food. I have lava rocks around it which make it difficult to feed anything but tea. The soil was already very fertile from growing tomatoes in that spot when I planted it. It's pretty neglected really, I hardly ever remember to water it.:o For a couple years my wife called it a "Tweener" (not dead but not growing) and asked me to plant something else there but I never gave up hope for it and then this year it made some nice growth after properly de flowering it last year. The year previous I pruned the flowers too early and they all grew back, a few times! It really lost some size from my pruning that year. Then one of the two main branches broke in a freak accident so it was looking pretty sad for quite a while. I think with proper pruning it should be somewhat healthy next year.

capthof 11-01-2009 04:24 PM

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Mitchel;
The Haden is one of the good old tried and true mangoes.
They can get quite large if left unattended.
Squarm asked about flavor and production.
The Rosigold is a great producer and is only six feet tall, as a matter of fact it is blooming now, we will see if the fruit sets. Rosigold fruit is excellent.
My Carrie is the oldest and most flavorful in my opinion. It has no fiber and fruits early.
The Malika I just got and only had one fruit so I am waiting to comment on that one.
The Nam Doc Mia has only been in the ground a year and is very good tasting.
Honestly I like the Rosigold better.
The Cogshall is another great small tree the fruit is good, but not as flavorful as the Carrie.
At my mothers we planted a Valencia Pride, a hearty large tree with excellent fruit that is oblong in shape.
The truth be told, the best mango is the one you got in your Hand!:ha:

palmtree 11-01-2009 04:43 PM

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Just wanted to say great pics! I love mangoes, but have never grown any. Maybe it will be in my garden next year :)

capthof 11-02-2009 07:03 PM

Re: Mangos
 
This is a great article:
Exploring Florida Documents: mangos
Hope is sheds some light especially on Hayden Mangoes.

conejov 11-02-2009 07:46 PM

Re: Mangos
 
Its great to read everyone's experiences growing mangoes. I have one that I grew from a fruit I ate, So I dont know what it is. I currently need to repot it, its a small pot.

Doesnt it make it easier to access the fruit if its prune to kinda of "mold" it to the desired height?

john_ny 11-02-2009 07:56 PM

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Huh?

Richard 11-02-2009 08:01 PM

Re: Mangos
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by capthof (Post 106670)
This is a great article:
Exploring Florida Documents: mangos
Hope is sheds some light especially on Hayden Mangoes.

What a great article!

frog7994 11-02-2009 08:31 PM

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I have very large mago tree Just check my pic. gallery

lorax 11-04-2009 02:25 PM

Re: Mangos
 
Mitchel - I´ve had young mangoes do exactly that, and I always figured it was something to do with the tree being too young to support the amount of fruit it set. With propping I've been able to keep the tree from cacking while it matures the fruits. And I'd say that it wasn't an issue specifically for Hadens, because my Ambajadores do it too.

mushtaq86 11-28-2009 07:00 PM

Re: Mangos
 
Two things i would like to ask about mangos

1 Every time i try to grow one from seed it grows about 30cm and for no reason the leaves start to die and turn yellow and the plant just dies.

2 Do they only fruit when they are a big tree.

island cassie 11-28-2009 07:09 PM

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Mushtaq - I can't comment on the small trees dying as we grew them for many years from pits in the UK but let them go when they outgrew their space. They only do fruit when they are a big tree - we have one that was planted 4 years ago and should flower next year at about 20ft size hopefully.

mushtaq86 11-28-2009 07:17 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by island cassie (Post 112063)
Mushtaq - I can't comment on the small trees dying as we grew them for many years from pits in the UK but let them go when they outgrew their space. They only do fruit when they are a big tree - we have one that was planted 4 years ago and should flower next year at about 20ft size hopefully.

Thanks for the info island cassie,they are one of the tastiest fruits in the world yet so many people in the UK have never tried them.

island cassie 11-28-2009 08:45 PM

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They are my favourite fruit too, and the newer varieties are almost fibre-free. I remember the bad old days when you had to eat them in the bath - and the spend days picking the fibre out of your teeth!!

capthof 11-28-2009 09:12 PM

Re: Mangos
 
There are several varieties called "Condo Mangos" that can be container grown or planted and can be trimmed at less than 15 feet.
My favorite is the Rosigold. The Cogshall is a great producer and can be kept at 8 feet.
Pine Island Nursery: Mango Cultivar Viewer

Eric 11-28-2009 09:26 PM

Re: Mangos
 
:lurk: Mangos are Definitely the best tasting fruit there is and I Luv jumex mango nectar! Super thread! Definitely have a Mango tree, on my list, for the future!
Thanx for all the great pics too! Awesome :) !

Squam256 11-28-2009 09:31 PM

Re: Mangos
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mushtaq86 (Post 112062)
Two things i would like to ask about mangos

1 Every time i try to grow one from seed it grows about 30cm and for no reason the leaves start to die and turn yellow and the plant just dies.

2 Do they only fruit when they are a big tree.

Can't comment on the first part....could be a number of things.

But as far as fruit goes, they usually have to be around 5 to 7 years old before they fruit if they're grown from seed. If they're grafted they'll often try to fruit in their first year.

Richard 11-28-2009 09:46 PM

Re: Mangos
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mushtaq86 (Post 112062)
Two things i would like to ask about mangos

1 Every time i try to grow one from seed it grows about 30cm and for no reason the leaves start to die and turn yellow and the plant just dies.

2 Do they only fruit when they are a big tree.

#1: sounds like overwatering

#2: Squam256 hit it right on the nose.

mushtaq86 11-29-2009 05:00 PM

Re: Mangos
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard (Post 112082)
#1: sounds like overwatering

#2: Squam256 hit it right on the nose.

I don't think its over watering Richard i think it might be fungus,as soon as i have eaten a mango i wash the seed with normal tap water then leave it to dry,until the next day which i then pot it in normal compost.There might be bacteria left on the seed.

banfan 11-29-2009 05:02 PM

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When you follow Dr. Campbell's protocol for planting, tipping, fertilization and watering you should have the best mango production utilizing less space than the conventional method. BTW one cultivar that should be grown is the Cuban San Felipe. It is like a Haden on steroids without the Haden problems.

SoBe Musa 11-30-2009 07:39 AM

Re: Mangos
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mushtaq86 (Post 112154)
I don't think its over watering Richard i think it might be fungus,as soon as i have eaten a mango i wash the seed with normal tap water then leave it to dry,until the next day which i then pot it in normal compost.There might be bacteria left on the seed.

Here's some info on local South Florida Mamgo grower:

FAIRCHAILD TROPICAL BOTANIC GARDEN
VIRTUAL HERBARIUM


SITE: Mango Trees

mushtaq86 11-30-2009 05:17 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SoBe Musa (Post 112226)
Here's some info on local South Florida Mamgo grower:

FAIRCHAILD TROPICAL BOTANIC GARDEN
VIRTUAL HERBARIUM


SITE: Mango Trees

Thanks SoBe.

Rmplmnz 11-30-2009 10:03 PM

Re: Mangos
 
Pine Island Nursery has a nice Cultivar Viewer:

Pine Island Nursery - Mango Variety Viewer

conejov 12-01-2009 12:07 AM

Re: Mangos
 
Thanks for sharing all the info on mangos.

SoBe Musa 12-01-2009 12:43 AM

Re: Mangos
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rmplmnz (Post 112338)
Pine Island Nursery has a nice Cultivar Viewer:

Pine Island Nursery - Mango Variety Viewer

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