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Richard 10-02-2009 08:16 PM

White Sapote varieties Cuccio & Chestnut
 
Had the opportunity to try some fruits of Cuccio & Chestnut varieties of White Sapote today. Very good!

planetrj 10-03-2009 02:34 AM

Re: White Sapote varieties Cuccio & Chestnut
 
That is very interesting to know! I've never heard of these cv's. My favorites that I grow of Casimiroa Edulis are:

-Vernon
-Pike
-McDill
-My own cross "Perfection"

The worst ones I've tasted are:

-Maltby
-Suebelle
-Mac's Gold
-Wilson's

I have tasted a wild Sapote when in Mexico which was amazing, and i brought back about 15 seeds (2 fruit), and they are growing well and about 5 feet tall, but not yet forked or fruited.

Want Them All 10-06-2009 11:35 AM

Re: White Sapote varieties Cuccio & Chestnut
 
Don't know what I have, but I just planted a white sapote a few days ago. Of course, I got it from Home Depot. :ha:

planetrj 10-06-2009 02:33 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Want Them All (Post 101454)
Don't know what I have, but I just planted a white sapote a few days ago. Of course, I got it from Home Depot.

there's a 99.99% chance you have a Suebelle. Though it does fruit fairly easily, you shouldn't think that's what a Sapote is supposed to taste like... It's kind of like an over-ripe mango, or like an over-ripe Papaya. The best quality Sapotes usually have a slight honey flavor mixed with a vanilla egg custard, and some vary with tones of lemon, pear, and apricot.

On the other hand, a (wrongly named) Black Sapote (Diospyros digyna), which is actually a member of the persimmon family, and not the citrus family, tastes like chocolate pudding. However, before everyone rushes out to get one, I can attest that unless you have a greenhouse big enough to grow a 15 foot + tall tree, you're not going to have any luck growing it, since it is a very close to being true tropical, needing full sun, and complete death occurs at around 30 degrees F.

BLACK SAPOTE

Richard 10-06-2009 04:25 PM

Re: White Sapote varieties Cuccio & Chestnut
 
Here's some more information on Sapote-named Fruits: http://www.plantsthatproduce.com/col..._06_Sapote.htm

planetrj 10-06-2009 05:26 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard (Post 101515)
Here's some more information on Sapote-named Fruits: http://www.plantsthatproduce.com/col..._06_Sapote.htm

Richard,
I love this website and had totally forgotten about it. Thanks for bringing back the link! I'm going to put this URL in the bookmarks of both my MAC and my PC so I never lose it. Danke!!

Want Them All 10-07-2009 04:07 PM

Re: White Sapote varieties Cuccio & Chestnut
 
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Originally Posted by Richard (Post 101515)
Here's some more information on Sapote-named Fruits: PTP_2008_06_Sapote

The 2nd fruit listed, "Sapote (Manilkara zapota), named Sapodilla by the Dutch",

is it the same as this Alano sapodilla?
Alano-Sapodilla

I have an Alano sapodilla tree in my yard. Even though my tree is too small to bear fruits, I've had many "Alano sapodilla" fruits, wonderful sweet flavor. Can't wait for mine to bear some.

planetrj 10-07-2009 04:15 PM

Re: White Sapote varieties Cuccio & Chestnut
 
Wow, that's nice. It looks so much like the Mammey, and those are strict tropicals. I know they won't make it through some winters in San Diego. Do you have yours in a greenhouse overwinter?

Want Them All 10-07-2009 04:28 PM

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We'll see how it does, I just bought it 2 weeks ago, from a nursery in Riverside. They have many tropicals. A few Alano sapodillas have been in their backyard for 3 years. The one I bought came in a 5-gallon pot. I'll plant it tomorrow. I also bought a green water apple plant, he picked off a green water apple fruit from his tree, great taste!

Richard 10-07-2009 08:15 PM

Re: White Sapote varieties Cuccio & Chestnut
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Want Them All (Post 101734)
The 2nd fruit listed, "Sapote (Manilkara zapota), named Sapodilla by the Dutch",

is it the same as this Alano sapodilla?
Alano-Sapodilla

I have an Alano sapodilla tree in my yard. Even though my tree is too small to bear fruits, I've had many "Alano sapodilla" fruits, wonderful sweet flavor. Can't wait for mine to bear some.

More accurately, 'Alano' is a cultivar from Thailand. The Sapodilla (Manilkara zapota) is native to the Americas.

Attached are two articles on the Sapodilla from the USDA archives, one from 1888 and the other from 2002.

capthof 10-07-2009 08:54 PM

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Richard;
I have the Alano and Sylas Wood sapodillas and enjoy them immensely.
What is the difference taste wise compared to the white sapote.
My white sapote is head high but has yet to bear fruit so I am very curious.
I also have the Black sapote and I know what they taste like.

Richard 10-07-2009 09:00 PM

Re: White Sapote varieties Cuccio & Chestnut
 
The white sapote is in a different family of plants (Rutaceae) and tastes very different. The taste expectation of banana X pear is not too far off.

sunfish 06-26-2010 08:54 AM

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Sapote fruit from neighborhood tree.



sunfish 07-03-2010 03:53 PM

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Can anyone identify which variety this is ?





Richard 07-04-2010 01:33 AM

Re: White Sapote varieties Cuccio & Chestnut
 
Tony, there are several large varieties. Does it have any bitterness in the taste?

sunfish 07-04-2010 07:47 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard (Post 133674)
Tony, there are several large varieties. Does it have any bitterness in the taste?

Not to me.The skin was slightly bitter.

Richard 07-04-2010 09:47 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sunfish (Post 133687)
Not to me.The skin was slightly bitter.

Hard to say then. McDill is that size, but so are seedlings.

sunfish 08-01-2010 12:10 PM

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sunfish 09-27-2010 09:42 AM

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Richard 09-27-2010 12:07 PM

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Yeah! Now that we have some hot Santa Ana weather, they might actually ripen on the tree.


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