A couple of unknowns

Prometheus · 08-27-2011, 04:37 PM

Any ideas on these fellas. Should be really easy for most folks on this site. I think the two are ice creams (blue javas), but I lost most of my nanners overwintering last year, and lost track of what was what (had over 13 varieties). I'm trying to get back on track and make sure I know what's what. Thanks in advance for your help.

This variegated fella?

Are these both Blue Javas? - they both look similar, but I'm not sure - that's a Basjoo leaf sticking in from the right. The pic may not be telling enough though - I could try another pic (overhead?) if it's needed.

sunfish · 08-28-2011, 03:55 PM

Maybe this is the unknown

Musa Sumatrana X Gran Nain (cross) - Bananas Wiki

Jananas Bananas · 08-28-2011, 04:31 PM

Mine is a Musa Sumatrana Zebrina (Rojo).

Musa Sumatrana (Rojo) - Bananas Wiki

At the very least we are getting close right?

Here is the Wiki link for Ice Cream:

Musa Blue Java (Ice Cream) - Bananas Wiki

Gabe will know for sure, though Tony has much more experience than I do!!!

~JaNan

sunfish · 08-28-2011, 04:37 PM

It's probably one of the two

Prometheus · 08-28-2011, 05:32 PM

I swore I remember it being labeled a Gran nain, but knew that wasn't it. The gran nain cross might be it. It's only in dappled sunshine, so that should explain the really dark colors. Regardless, I'm a big fan of it. Thanks for all your help.

Jananas Bananas · 08-28-2011, 05:37 PM

If you got it from a big box store, their labeling leaves a lot to be desired. Sometimes even the nurseries screw up badly too....so I wouldn't hang my hat on the label too much.

~J

Prometheus · 08-28-2011, 05:50 PM

Yeah, I'm aware of big box labeling. I've purchased from Sandy at Northern Tropics, Wellspring, e-bay for my first few (before I started reading the org), a couple local nurseries, and traded a few. I just can't seem to find my records, which at one time were pretty good, but I'm trying to figure out if the online retailers still have records of my orders. Time will tell I guess. Thanks again.

Jananas Bananas · 08-28-2011, 06:00 PM

Sandy does sell that Sumatrana and Gran Nain cross. I wonder if that would be an edible banana? Hmmmmmm..........I really like the colorful variegates! So pretty! ~J

Prometheus · 08-28-2011, 06:04 PM

After some further checking, I know it didn't come from Wellspring - detailed records of purchases. Sandy's site only shows "recent orders," so no dice. It's quite possible that's the case and the nanner. Thanks.

caliboy1994 · 09-10-2011, 06:13 PM

One way to check of those are Ice Creams is if they have a pinkish-red outline on the leaves. They do appear to have the waxy substance under the leaves, which all Ice Creams (including mine) have.

sunfish · 09-10-2011, 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by caliboy1994

One way to check of those are Ice Creams is if they have a pinkish-red outline on the leaves. They do appear to have the waxy substance under the leaves, which all Ice Creams (including mine) have.

You might want to check this out

Blue Java,Ice Cream

sunfish · 09-10-2011, 06:53 PM

Not Ice Cream

Nicolas Naranja · 09-12-2011, 10:31 AM

I got one of those variegated red bananas in an order of gran nains 2 years ago. I planted it at my house where it is still only about 4' tall.

Yet another screw up by agristarts...Although I suppose 95% of the time you get exactly what you order.

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Jananas Bananas Jananas Bananas's Photo Gallery Location: Austin, Texas Find me on the map! Zone: 8b/9a Name: JaNan Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 4,438 BananaBucks : 397,491 Feedback: 1 / 100% Said "Thanks" 3,341 Times Was Thanked 7,059 Times in 2,683 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 133 Times	Re: A couple of unknowns If you got it from a big box store, their labeling leaves a lot to be desired. Sometimes even the nurseries screw up badly too....so I wouldn't hang my hat on the label too much. ~J __________________ Jananas Bananas

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Prometheus Prometheus's Photo Gallery Location: Ann Arbor, MI Find me on the map! Zone: 5-6 Name: Brad Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 58 BananaBucks : 15,598 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Thanks" 24 Times Was Thanked 44 Times in 17 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 15 Times	Re: A couple of unknowns Yeah, I'm aware of big box labeling. I've purchased from Sandy at Northern Tropics, Wellspring, e-bay for my first few (before I started reading the org), a couple local nurseries, and traded a few. I just can't seem to find my records, which at one time were pretty good, but I'm trying to figure out if the online retailers still have records of my orders. Time will tell I guess. Thanks again.

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Jananas Bananas Jananas Bananas's Photo Gallery Location: Austin, Texas Find me on the map! Zone: 8b/9a Name: JaNan Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 4,438 BananaBucks : 397,491 Feedback: 1 / 100% Said "Thanks" 3,341 Times Was Thanked 7,059 Times in 2,683 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 133 Times	Re: A couple of unknowns Sandy does sell that Sumatrana and Gran Nain cross. I wonder if that would be an edible banana? Hmmmmmm..........I really like the colorful variegates! So pretty! ~J __________________ Jananas Bananas

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Prometheus Prometheus's Photo Gallery Location: Ann Arbor, MI Find me on the map! Zone: 5-6 Name: Brad Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 58 BananaBucks : 15,598 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Thanks" 24 Times Was Thanked 44 Times in 17 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 15 Times	Re: A couple of unknowns After some further checking, I know it didn't come from Wellspring - detailed records of purchases. Sandy's site only shows "recent orders," so no dice. It's quite possible that's the case and the nanner. Thanks.

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