Did Ty Ty send me the wrong banana?

JuniPerez · 06-14-2012, 08:03 PM

Hello all... I just recently bought a 3 gallon corm from Ty Ty that is supposed to be a basjoo. I have never seen a basjoo emerge with red outlines. Too small for me to see if the petioles are winged, but my other basjoos that have sprouted do not have this red outline along the edge of the leaf. Can anyone confirm if they've seen basjoo's like this? I've only had basjoos that I got from Hardy Tropicals years ago and like I said, never seen the red edges.

Ramanon · 06-14-2012, 10:57 PM

Maybe, I know Tytyga.com is a website to avoid. They harassed gardenwatchdog.com to remove all reviews, which is never a good thing, and yes I know people abuse ratings and such.

I have bought from tytyga.com and was not happy.

venturabananas · 06-14-2012, 11:16 PM

Juni, you've been on this website long enough to know better than to order from them!

JuniPerez · 06-15-2012, 07:00 AM

Lol... I know... but something tunneled into and ate a couple of my corms overwinter, so I wanted to replace with a nice-sized corm instead of waiting for pups to start coming off the other plants... so I ordered a couple 3-gal corms from them (everyone else had starters and TC's... didn't want that). I guess I'll have to wait for it to get bigger and see what it is. If not basjoo, I'll have to trade for one since I'm not digging up corms for winter. "(

venturabananas · 06-15-2012, 09:28 AM

Well, hopefully it will turn out to basjoo and you'll be happy. It may just be a fun experiment and you might have a nice big banana plant by the end of summer that isn't basjoo. That wouldn't be so bad.

Snookie · 06-15-2012, 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by venturabananas

Juni, you've been on this website long enough to know better than to order from them!

To my knowledge, I have nO KNOWLEDGE of what type/name of nanna plants I have planted...lol

Every place I have purchased from local and on line I am being told sold me or I bought something else:}

Kinda like waiting for the results of a paternity test out here in Lizard Creek you know you had some just don't know how much and how it's going to turn out.

Nanna planting is alot like....Uh never mind :}

john_ny · 06-15-2012, 12:36 PM

I looked at my Basjoos today. The pups on some that I overwintered outside, wrapped and protected, have red midribs. Some larger ones, that I overwintered dry, in a cool room, do not have the red midribs, and none have red edges. (BTW, these are all pups from the same tray of AgriStarts TCs, that I got a few years ago.)

caliboy1994 · 06-15-2012, 06:01 PM

I'll make a wild guess. Dwarf Namwah.

Yug · 06-15-2012, 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snookie

To my knowledge, I have nO KNOWLEDGE of what type/name of nanna plants I have planted...lol

Every place I have purchased from local and on line I am being told sold me or I bought something else:}

Kinda like waiting for the results of a paternity test out here in Lizard Creek you know you had some just don't know how much and how it's going to turn out.

Nanna planting is alot like....Uh never mind :}

When it gets bigger, and starts to bloom, take some photos. Later as the fruit develops, more photos. One think to take note of is after the bloom is not making any more fruit, when the end part of the bud is about 1 to 1 1/2 ft below the fruit, take another photo. Also, note how high the pseudo-stem is - that would be the main trunk, not counting the leaves. All those things will be important in deciding what sort you may be growing. What is really important, though, is if you are happy with the plant and the fruit, what type it is doesn't matter.

Darkman · 06-16-2012, 07:07 PM

Ordering from there you're lucky you got a Banana!

RobG7aChattTN · 06-17-2012, 01:42 PM

Please, please, please...don't buy from Tyty. I'm sure someone on this site has basjoo out the ying-yang for a good price.

JuniPerez · 06-30-2012, 11:44 PM

Anyone else care to take a jab at it? From what I see in their catalogs, they sell Dwarf Brazilian, Dwarf Cavendish, Carolina King, Mysore, Nam wah, Grand Nain, Golden Rhino, Rajapuri, and Texas Star...

The red blotches and the red outline on the leaves are what worry me. Any of the above mentioned will not survive here like the basjoo would.

caliboy1994 · 07-01-2012, 01:28 AM

Looks most like a Namwah to me.

venturabananas · 07-01-2012, 10:57 AM

I agree that the leaf shape looks like Dwarf Namwah, but it would be very unusual for that variety to have the red blotches on the leaf that this plant has. The leaf shape certainly suggests some dwarf type, but on small plants like this, leaf shape can be misleading. In short, I don't know. And I wouldn't limit your choices to the varieties they claim they have.

Post a picture of the petiole (leaf canal), that might help narrow things down.

Snookie · 07-01-2012, 11:24 AM

Naw!!!!!! Can't Be lol!

Heck every banana plant I have bought or ordered seems to be something other then advertised.....

Kinda like ....

A suprise always awaits you..

Alot like women, seem to be something different when they grow out a little:}

Abnshrek · 07-01-2012, 12:06 PM

I looked thru all my picture and I think it looks most like a D. Namwah :^)

JuniPerez · 07-01-2012, 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by venturabananas

Post a picture of the petiole (leaf canal), that might help narrow things down.

Okay, here are closeups of the stem and petiole:

venturabananas · 07-01-2012, 08:47 PM

Definitely not Namwah, which has closed petiole canals. The open petiole canal with spreading "wings" combined with the very short petioles and some faint wine stains makes something like Dwarf Cavendish most likely, given the source. But it is still a very small plant, so it is a bit hard to be sure at this point.

Abnshrek · 07-01-2012, 10:08 PM

I don't think its a DC since it doesn't have any red in the P-stem.. It might be a texas star. Is it just one plant? If it didn't have red blotches I'd think it was a D. Orinoco.. :^)

venturabananas · 07-02-2012, 12:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Abnshrek

I don't think its a DC since it doesn't have any red in the P-stem.. It might be a texas star. Is it just one plant? If it didn't have red blotches I'd think it was a D. Orinoco.. :^)

Definitely not D. Orinoco, with open petiole canals with wings (DO has a closed canal with no wings).

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