Dwarf Red, kru or what?

sbl · 07-19-2009, 06:13 PM

This was sold at Lowe's as a Dwarf Cavendish, but I don't think that is right--this is very cold sensitive--will loose leaves at temps in the 50s.

I can take more pics close-up if needed--I would imagine that it might take a bloom before it can be positively identified.

sunfish · 07-19-2009, 06:24 PM

My guess is kru.

momoese · 07-19-2009, 06:28 PM

Not Cavendish! Much nicer!!

island cassie · 07-19-2009, 06:31 PM

Wow - very red - I have nothing like that! But very nice and I wish I had it. Definitely not dwarf cavendish - lovely plant.

adrift · 07-19-2009, 08:48 PM

Beautiful. Really.
And not a DC.

coast crab · 07-19-2009, 09:17 PM

Sbl and I have been trying to hash this out.

I think this tree looks exactly like mine that I thought was iholene red, but everyone seems to think mine is tall red - and I can live with tall red. Apparently kru is sensitive to cold, and slb has noticed that in his. Mine hasn't seen any cold yet, I guess we'll see what happens this winter.

Russell

sbl · 07-20-2009, 03:23 AM

Just in case you can't see, the petiole flares where it meets the pseudostem- if that helps.

coast crab · 07-20-2009, 08:44 AM

Well, for that matter, can't we throw Jamaican red into the mix too?

Check out wiki, I'm totally confused. Since we've ruled out iholene red for me, I'll stick with tall red for now (my post is the one before this one). Maybe when one blooms we'll find out for sure!

Russell

just j · 07-20-2009, 12:00 PM

its not a kru it looks like a red

island cassie · 07-20-2009, 12:15 PM

If it helps - this is what has been identified as my tall red.

sbl · 07-20-2009, 02:19 PM

That looks very similar--the color and the way the petiole fringe flares where it meets the pseudostem.

island cassie · 07-20-2009, 02:32 PM

It does look similar - I had forgotten that I had it! lol!

sunfish · 07-20-2009, 03:32 PM

Kru

Dwarf Green Red

sbl · 07-20-2009, 06:19 PM

Just for comparison, here are a few closeup pictures of the leaf, pseudostem and petioles.

Neukman51 · 07-26-2009, 12:27 PM

I likewise bought a similar looking banana at a big box hardware store (Home Depot). And eventhough the pot had a tag labeling the plant as Banana - Dwarf Cavendish Musa acuminata I was challenged by the bananas.org "experts" for calling it a Dwarf Cavendish. I've since purchased a Dwarf Red from a Florida grower and must admit my so called DC looks more like the purchased Dwarf Red that all the photos I've seen of DC. Here's another look at my potentially mis-labeled banana.

So my vote now goes for Dwarf Red

By the way, a matrix of Banana Cultivars and International Synonyms from the University of Hawaii at Manoa lists Dwarf Red, Dwarf Cuban Red, Dwarf Jamaican Red, Indian Dwarf Red, and Maroon as all being acceptable synonyms for the same banana cultivar.

momoese · 07-26-2009, 01:48 PM

I know they have been stocking some Dwarf Reds here locally at some of the home repair/garden centers.

Worm_Farmer · 07-26-2009, 02:48 PM

Not a Kru, My Kru is bi color both red and green and I think it is the best looking one of my heard. My Dwarf Red looks just like yours but is much smaller. The lower parts are a brighter red and the newer top area has the white powdery white stuff on it. I will try to take a pic of my Dwarf red to post, because even the leaf's growth pattern looks the same.

I vote Red Dwarf

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sbl sbl's Photo Gallery Location: Pensacola, FL Find me on the map! Zone: 8/9 Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 1,013 BananaBucks : 66,844 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Thanks" 177 Times Was Thanked 732 Times in 395 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 154 Times	Re: Dwarf Red, kru or what? That looks very similar--the color and the way the petiole fringe flares where it meets the pseudostem.

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island cassie island cassie's Photo Gallery Location: Dominican Republic Find me on the map! Zone: 11+ I guess Name: Island Cassie Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 3,170 BananaBucks : 383,691 Feedback: 2 / 100% Said "Thanks" 1,708 Times Was Thanked 2,079 Times in 874 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 416 Times	Re: Dwarf Red, kru or what? It does look similar - I had forgotten that I had it! lol!

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Neukman51 Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 14 BananaBucks : 15,992 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Thanks" 0 Times Was Thanked 18 Times in 4 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 0 Times	Re: Dwarf Red, kru or what? I likewise bought a similar looking banana at a big box hardware store (Home Depot). And eventhough the pot had a tag labeling the plant as Banana - Dwarf Cavendish Musa acuminata I was challenged by the bananas.org "experts" for calling it a Dwarf Cavendish. I've since purchased a Dwarf Red from a Florida grower and must admit my so called DC looks more like the purchased Dwarf Red that all the photos I've seen of DC. Here's another look at my potentially mis-labeled banana. So my vote now goes for Dwarf Red By the way, a matrix of Banana Cultivars and International Synonyms from the University of Hawaii at Manoa lists Dwarf Red, Dwarf Cuban Red, Dwarf Jamaican Red, Indian Dwarf Red, and Maroon as all being acceptable synonyms for the same banana cultivar.

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Worm_Farmer Worm_Farmer 's Photo Gallery Location: Palm Bay, FL Zone: 9b Name: Mike Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 1,533 BananaBucks : 50,510 Feedback: 14 / 100% Said "Thanks" 5,326 Times Was Thanked 1,830 Times in 679 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 2,866 Times	Re: Dwarf Red, kru or what? Not a Kru, My Kru is bi color both red and green and I think it is the best looking one of my heard. My Dwarf Red looks just like yours but is much smaller. The lower parts are a brighter red and the newer top area has the white powdery white stuff on it. I will try to take a pic of my Dwarf red to post, because even the leaf's growth pattern looks the same. I vote Red Dwarf

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