ID for a friend

wstrickland1 · 08-08-2021, 02:07 PM

Maybe these are too young to tell. Anyone want to take a stab at it?

FB_IMG_1628448118815 by William Strickland, on Flickr

cincinnana · 08-08-2021, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by wstrickland1

Maybe these are too young to tell. Anyone want to take a stab at it?

FB_IMG_1628448118815 by William Strickland, on Flickr

Looks ........orinoco..ish...knowing the local history and transition of the plant in local areas...my guess. if the plant has been there for a few years

Big box stores are distributing a few varieties that will dilute the Id Pool.
But it is the same stuff...cavendish,sdc dc, siam ruby type,basjoo,namwha.

But I am 1000 miles away

wstrickland1 · 08-08-2021, 06:11 PM

It is here local and was there when they bought the house. The shape of the fruit made me think Orinoco but she for some reason doesn't think so. Maybe when they get a little bigger?

wstrickland1 · 08-08-2021, 06:12 PM

And you're right about the big box stores. That HD plant I got last Labor Day is looking a bit red

smeash · 08-09-2021, 02:07 PM

My blue java have those purple streaks on the bananas when young.. but I believe a blue java is kin to an orinoco so could be either.

Gabe15 · 08-11-2021, 01:48 AM

Orinoco 100%

wstrickland1 · 08-11-2021, 10:47 AM

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Orinoco 100%

I thought the same based on the shape of the fruit. What is the dead giveaway?

Gabe15 · 08-11-2021, 07:27 PM

50% of identifying is narrowing down the likely candidates based on location and context, and 50% is looking at the plant. The fact that you have an unknown fruiting banana in South Carolina automatically narrows it down to an extremely small set of likely varieties, like less than 5. 95%+ of the time, in this scenario the plant would either be the hardy wild species Musa basjoo, or the edible cultivar 'Orinoco'.

Now, actually looking at your plant, I can see many classic standard traits of 'Orinoco', including the color and lifting behavior of the bracts, the orientation of the bunch, the number and spacing of the fruits, and coloration on the young fruits. Pair those highly distinguishing traits with the fact that you have an unknown banana in SC, and we can 100% you have 'Orinoco', which is the most common banana you'll find across the entire Southern US.

wstrickland1 · 08-11-2021, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Gabe15

50% of identifying is narrowing down the likely candidates based on location and context, and 50% is looking at the plant. The fact that you have an unknown fruiting banana in South Carolina automatically narrows it down to an extremely small set of likely varieties, like less than 5. 95%+ of the time, in this scenario the plant would either be the hardy wild species Musa basjoo, or the edible cultivar 'Orinoco'.

Now, actually looking at your plant, I can see many classic standard traits of 'Orinoco', including the color and lifting behavior of the bracts, the orientation of the bunch, the number and spacing of the fruits, and coloration on the young fruits. Pair those highly distinguishing traits with the fact that you have an unknown banana in SC, and we can 100% you have 'Orinoco', which is the most common banana you'll find across the entire Southern US.

Yeah South Carolina definitely isn't the banana capital of the world that's for sure.

So I've been calling my internet Blue Java a namwah all along. I'm going to get your opinion on it. Will post a recent pic. Thanks!

wstrickland1 · 08-11-2021, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by wstrickland1

Yeah South Carolina definitely isn't the banana capital of the world that's for sure.

So I've been calling my internet Blue Java a namwah all along. I'm going to get your opinion on it. Will post a recent pic. Thanks!

Ok here's the latest pic of mine.

2021-08-11_08-46-39 by William Strickland, on Flickr

08-08-2021, 02:07 PM	#1 (permalink)
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08-08-2021, 06:11 PM	#3 (permalink)
wstrickland1 Location: Charleston, SC Zone: 8-B Join Date: Jun 2020 Posts: 966 BananaBucks : 58,632 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Thanks" 306 Times Was Thanked 1,426 Times in 594 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 2 Times	Re: ID for a friend It is here local and was there when they bought the house. The shape of the fruit made me think Orinoco but she for some reason doesn't think so. Maybe when they get a little bigger?

08-08-2021, 06:12 PM	#4 (permalink)
wstrickland1 Location: Charleston, SC Zone: 8-B Join Date: Jun 2020 Posts: 966 BananaBucks : 58,632 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Thanks" 306 Times Was Thanked 1,426 Times in 594 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 2 Times	Re: ID for a friend And you're right about the big box stores. That HD plant I got last Labor Day is looking a bit red

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Gabe15 Moderator Gabe15's Photo Gallery Location: Oahu, Hawaii Find me on the map! Zone: 12 Name: Gabe Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 3,892 BananaBucks : 13,351,937 Feedback: 5 / 100% Said "Thanks" 1 Times Was Thanked 8,241 Times in 2,200 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 8 Times	Re: ID for a friend 50% of identifying is narrowing down the likely candidates based on location and context, and 50% is looking at the plant. The fact that you have an unknown fruiting banana in South Carolina automatically narrows it down to an extremely small set of likely varieties, like less than 5. 95%+ of the time, in this scenario the plant would either be the hardy wild species Musa basjoo, or the edible cultivar 'Orinoco'. Now, actually looking at your plant, I can see many classic standard traits of 'Orinoco', including the color and lifting behavior of the bracts, the orientation of the bunch, the number and spacing of the fruits, and coloration on the young fruits. Pair those highly distinguishing traits with the fact that you have an unknown banana in SC, and we can 100% you have 'Orinoco', which is the most common banana you'll find across the entire Southern US. __________________ Growing bananas in Colorado, Washington, Hawaii since 2004. Commercial banana farmer, 200+ varieties.

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