id help , maybe Monkey Finger ?

aroideana · 12-28-2009, 11:19 PM

This plant was given to me with unusual New guinea name goli pot pot ?
It is smaller stature than Ducasse and Mona Lisa with distinctive reddish petioles and stem . It has just flowered , fruits are small and bell is long and pointed .. have uploaded pics . an help appreciated

Gabe15 · 12-29-2009, 01:06 AM

I have seen that name before, I believe in Simmonds book. Unfortunately I don't have it on me, but if you don't get an answer in a few weeks I will look it up when I get a chance.

The plant you have is not 'Monkey Fingers' though. Search the gallery for my photos of 'Pisang Jari Buaya' (its Indonesian name).

Taylor · 12-29-2009, 01:37 AM

Page 99, says 'Pot' is an abbreviation in the AA group of New Guinea, also called 'Porpat', 'Sararaga', and 'Mami'.

There was nothing that I could find concerning 'Goli Pot Pot' or even 'Goli' but the above information might be relevant. Gabe, let me know if you need more information from Simmonds, or even a picture of the 2 pages that talk about it. I hope I'm on the right track.

aroideana · 12-29-2009, 04:12 AM

Thanks very much . Gabe have you tasted the fruit from the plant 'Pisang Jari Buaya' you flowered recently ? Looks very interesting .

Gabe15 · 12-29-2009, 11:46 AM

I was hoping to cut off a few fingers and bring them home with me (im in Colorado right now on the mainland US), but was unable to so I'm hoping its cool enough that the bunch doesn't ripen before I get back next month. So no, I haven't tried it yet, but I look forward to it!

aroideana · 01-09-2010, 05:06 PM

The fruits are not turning out anything like your Crocodile Fingers Gabe . My supplier tells me the fruits are small with thin skin . Maybe its Sucrier . Its pouring rain , at long last , so I cannot take any pictures . I will update my gallery when weather improves and the fruits maure a bit more .

aroideana · 02-20-2010, 05:25 PM

I braved light showers yesterday and took a few more pics .
So maybe Sucrier ?? any thoughts .

Gabe15 · 02-22-2010, 12:44 AM

It does not look like 'Sucrier'. 'Sucrier' has very distinctive brown coloration on the pseudostem and usually somewhat yellow petioles with reddish petiole wings. Notice on your plant there is black coloration and completely red petioles. Here are 'Sucrier' photos.

I think your plant may be a kind of Silk. 'Manzano' is a common Silk cultivar, but I don't think you have that cultivar. It also could be something else, but that is my guess.
These photos are of my Silk cultivar 'Ungoye Sweet'. The coloration is a bit different (I have an uncommon form though), but they look somewhat similar. See these photos of my 'Ungoye Sweet'.

aroideana · 03-01-2010, 08:08 AM

This picture shows the younger sucker that seems to have all red petioles .

When mature this fades and there is only a red edge .

Earlier pics were taken in full midday sun and may not be true colour , Took this one today during very overcast conditions , I would not call it brown , but not black either .

aroideana · 04-24-2010, 04:49 PM

Fruits from this strange one . More in my albums

Gabe15 · 04-25-2010, 01:46 AM

So In finally found that reference I had seen, turns out it wasn't in Simmonds' at all, but in a QDPI germplasm catalog. Here is some photos and a little info on 'Goly Goly Pot Pot'...pretty similar name...could be the same or similar plant, see what you think.

Genome: ABB
Subgroup: Kalapua

aroideana · 04-25-2010, 07:45 AM

Gabe, YES this might be it .. the spelling was mine .
And it has been suggested that the almost tastless fruit should be cooked . BUT the fruit is almost half of noted size .
These fruits are only 11 -12 cm. Bit of a mystery . I hope to be in touch with a local grower who would have almost all of the varieties in that book . I know some of the staff at the South Johnstone DPI. it's just a few k up the road .

Gabe15 · 04-25-2010, 01:34 PM

Fruit and bunch size is variable depending on many things within the same clone even, so I don't think that alone rules it out.

aroideana · 07-18-2010, 02:53 AM

This is Pisang Kering , just did a tour of large farm south of Ingham with Rare Fruits Australia , Cassowary Coast Branch.
Owner is a master grafter with vast plantings of many rare things.

Rmplmnz · 07-18-2010, 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aroideana

This is Pisang Kering , just did a tour of large farm south of Ingham with Rare Fruits Australia , Cassowary Coast Branch.
Owner is a master grafter with vast plantings of many rare things.

Would luv to see some pics of that Rare Fruit farm

aroideana · 07-19-2010, 05:11 PM

Sorry did not take my camera as it was raining when I left .
Amazing collection of native 'Finger Limes' and so many Pumellos !

Seems the name I was given is listed as a syn. for a plant I am already growing Pisang Ceylon . This has the first bunch coming and does not look like the plant in question.

Rmplmnz · 07-19-2010, 07:42 PM

Any pics of the finger limes?

aroideana · 04-08-2014, 08:08 PM

This has just been verified as Yangambi KM5 .

venturabananas · 04-09-2014, 12:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aroideana

This has just been verified as Yangambi KM5 .

What is the flavor of this one like? Similar to any other varieties you've tried? I have it, too, but it has been very slow to fruit in my climate: 3+ years and still no flower.

aroideana · 04-09-2014, 06:44 PM

Interesting taste , almost like an artificial banana flavour ..
very good cooked .. I have been simmering them in pandan infused coconut cream with palm sugar ..

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aroideana aroideana's Photo Gallery Location: Banana growing capital of Australia Find me on the map! Zone: wet tropics Name: Michael Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 53 BananaBucks : 21,784 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Thanks" 7 Times Was Thanked 43 Times in 21 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 0 Times	Re: id help , maybe Monkey Finger ? The fruits are not turning out anything like your Crocodile Fingers Gabe . My supplier tells me the fruits are small with thin skin . Maybe its Sucrier . Its pouring rain , at long last , so I cannot take any pictures . I will update my gallery when weather improves and the fruits maure a bit more .

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aroideana aroideana's Photo Gallery Location: Banana growing capital of Australia Find me on the map! Zone: wet tropics Name: Michael Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 53 BananaBucks : 21,784 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Thanks" 7 Times Was Thanked 43 Times in 21 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 0 Times	Re: id help , maybe Monkey Finger ? I braved light showers yesterday and took a few more pics . So maybe Sucrier ?? any thoughts . Last edited by aroideana : 02-20-2010 at 05:35 PM. Reason: more info

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aroideana aroideana's Photo Gallery Location: Banana growing capital of Australia Find me on the map! Zone: wet tropics Name: Michael Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 53 BananaBucks : 21,784 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Thanks" 7 Times Was Thanked 43 Times in 21 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 0 Times	Re: id help , maybe Monkey Finger ? This picture shows the younger sucker that seems to have all red petioles . When mature this fades and there is only a red edge . Earlier pics were taken in full midday sun and may not be true colour , Took this one today during very overcast conditions , I would not call it brown , but not black either . Last edited by aroideana : 03-01-2010 at 08:11 AM. Reason: 2 of same pic

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aroideana aroideana's Photo Gallery Location: Banana growing capital of Australia Find me on the map! Zone: wet tropics Name: Michael Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 53 BananaBucks : 21,784 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Thanks" 7 Times Was Thanked 43 Times in 21 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 0 Times	Re: id help , maybe Monkey Finger ? Fruits from this strange one . More in my albums Last edited by MediaHound : 04-24-2010 at 07:45 PM. Reason: fixed the pic for ya :)

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aroideana aroideana's Photo Gallery Location: Banana growing capital of Australia Find me on the map! Zone: wet tropics Name: Michael Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 53 BananaBucks : 21,784 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Thanks" 7 Times Was Thanked 43 Times in 21 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 0 Times	Re: id help , maybe Monkey Finger ? Interesting taste , almost like an artificial banana flavour .. very good cooked .. I have been simmering them in pandan infused coconut cream with palm sugar ..

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