Glen

I purchased these plants as "Cardaba" (left) and "Dwarf Namwah" (right). Below is a closeup of the "Cardaba".





While I am not entirely sure what either variety should look like, the "Dwarf Namwah" does show characteristics that are consistent with other ABB cultivars that I have seen, so I believe it may be correctly identified.

My concern is mainly about the identification of the "Cardaba". It looks more like the Cavendish clones that I have seen, than any ABB banana that I have seen.

Any input on the identity of either plant will be appreciated, especially the "Cardaba".


Thank you,

Glen

jimmmy

I think that cardaba is the one that is on the right side of this pic. we have plenty of them and I've never ever seen any red color on the leaves at all. then of course there are the ribbed leaves that are also so very like cardaba. Yes on the right cardaba
You can also go to Agri-Starts, Inc. and check out there pic's. we buy most all of our bananas from them. jimmmy

Gabe15

I agree that the left plant looks like a Cavendish and not Cardaba. Generally we dont like to give positive IDs on such young plants, but in cases like this were there are clear foliar distinctions, we ant least tell you what it likely isnt.

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Glen

Gabe,

Thank you for the information. Do you think that the plant on the right is at all consistent with Dwarf Namwah?

Gabe15

The one on the right has potential to be correctly labeled, but sometimes you never really know until it fruits.

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sandy0225

Why are you all so sure that the one on the left isn't a cardaba? I need to know more details, because if so the whole flat was mislabeled when I received it. I need to know for sure because that answer could possibly cost me some money!
What should a cardaba of that age look like? I remember the ones I received last year having red blotches at that age, too. Also does anyone have a picture of a cardaba at that age that I could compare it to? the only known picture of cardaba apparently on the whole internet is that one from agristarts, and while it shows very pretty fruit, the plants I have aren't quite so big!

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Gabe15

'Cardaba' is in the Saba subgroup, genetically it is 1 part M. acuminata (the species which provides the red marks on the leaves) and 2 parts M. balbisiana. I have never seen any ABB plants have that much red on the leaves, and also the common ones available (Ice Cream, Saba, Namwah) tend to have rather waxy petioles which are very round and have closed canals. The plant on the left has little wax compared to the one on the right and open, winged petiole canals. Addtionally, not only does it not look like 'Cardaba', but it looks consistent with a Cavendish, which are very common plants.

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sandy0225

thanks for the input, I'll be making a phone call to try and get this straightened up.

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Northern Tropics Greenhouse
1501 East Fuson Road
Muncie, IN 47302
www.northerntropics.com


specializing in bananas, heirloom tomatoes and water gardening plants~
check out our new online store at our website!

sunfish

Here is a members photo of a young Cardaba