Bananas.org

Welcome to the Bananas.org forums.

You're currently viewing our message boards as a guest which gives you limited access to participate in discussions and access our other features such as our wiki and photo gallery. By joining our community, you'll have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload photos, and access many other special features. Registration is fast and simple, so please join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.

Go Back   Bananas.org > Banana Forum > Banana Identification
Register Photo Gallery Classifieds Wiki Chat Map Today's Posts

Banana Identification Mystery Nanner? This is where you can get help to identify your banana plants. Upload some pics to your gallery and post a thread and let everyone know as much info that you have of the plant.


Members currently in the chatroom: 0
The most chatters online in one day was 17, 09-06-2009.
No one is currently using the chat.

Reply   Email this Page Email this Page
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 12-24-2007, 08:50 AM   #1 (permalink)
 
shopgirl2's Avatar
 
Location: Camp Lejeune, N.C. area
Zone: 8
Name: Carmensol
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 212
BananaBucks : 146,587
Feedback: 0 / 0%
Said "Thanks" 61 Times
Was Thanked 48 Times in 27 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 1 Times
Send a message via Yahoo to shopgirl2
Default Puerto Rico Banana

There is in Puerto Rico a short type of banana plant. Its leaves are red, some are green. We used to called them pig bananas because they were fed to the pigs. Consumption by humans was okay but they were very rich in protein causing stomach distress such as constipation. I think if I remember correctly the pulp of the fruit was a light orange color. good tasting also. Could only eat it when the banana skin became black.

However, the plant is beautiful. We used to call them "guineo Montecristo".

I would like to know the actual cultivar name. It is a beautiful plant and I surely would like to buy one.

Regards to all and thank you.
__________________
Orinoco by the sunlight.
shopgirl2 is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To shopgirl2
Said thanks:

Join Bananas.org Today!

Are you a banana plant enthusiast? Then we hope you will join the community. You will gain access to post, create threads, private message, upload images, join groups and more.

Bananas.org is owned and operated by fellow banana plant enthusiasts. We strive to offer a non-commercial community to learn and share information. Receive all three issues from Volume 1 of Bananas Magazine with your membership:
   

Join Bananas.org Today! - Click Here


Sponsors

Old 12-24-2007, 08:59 AM   #2 (permalink)
 
magicgreen's Avatar
 
Location: cincinnati OH. Z6
Zone: Z6
Name: Lynn
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 840
BananaBucks : 17,786
Feedback: 8 / 100%
Said "Thanks" 422 Times
Was Thanked 208 Times in 141 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 124 Times
Default Re: Puerto Rico Banana

interesting shopgirl , thanks Magicgreen
__________________
(Started growing bananas July 2007)
(Zone 6)
magicgreen is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To magicgreen
Old 12-24-2007, 02:23 PM   #3 (permalink)
Member
 
CookieCows's Avatar
 
Location: Kentucky
Zone: 6-7
Name: Deb
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 1,182
BananaBucks : 72,610
Feedback: 3 / 100%
Said "Thanks" 1,347 Times
Was Thanked 696 Times in 393 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 159 Times
Default Re: Puerto Rico Banana

That sounds very interesting! We raise our own pigs off and on.

Deb
__________________

CookieCows is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To CookieCows
Old 01-02-2008, 01:18 PM   #4 (permalink)
Bananaculturist
 
Bananaman88's Avatar
 
Location: Houston, TX area
Zone: 9
Name: Brent
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 3,019
BananaBucks : 221,382
Feedback: 22 / 100%
Said "Thanks" 1,339 Times
Was Thanked 2,263 Times in 1,178 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 191 Times
Send a message via Skype™ to Bananaman88
Default Re: Puerto Rico Banana

Quote:
Originally Posted by shopgirl2 View Post
There is in Puerto Rico a short type of banana plant. Its leaves are red, some are green. We used to called them pig bananas because they were fed to the pigs. Consumption by humans was okay but they were very rich in protein causing stomach distress such as constipation. I think if I remember correctly the pulp of the fruit was a light orange color. good tasting also. Could only eat it when the banana skin became black.

However, the plant is beautiful. We used to call them "guineo Montecristo".

I would like to know the actual cultivar name. It is a beautiful plant and I surely would like to buy one.

Regards to all and thank you.
Sounds a lot like 'Dw. Red' to me. It has reddish skin that, from what I understand, the skin needs to be almost black before eaten. Fruit color is like what you described as well.
Bananaman88 is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To Bananaman88
Old 01-02-2008, 02:28 PM   #5 (permalink)
Mechwarrior
 
STEELVIPER's Avatar
 
Location: Riverside,CA
Zone: 9B
Name: Mark
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 724
BananaBucks : 76,528
Feedback: 2 / 100%
Said "Thanks" 44 Times
Was Thanked 102 Times in 62 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 169 Times
Send a message via Yahoo to STEELVIPER
Default Re: Puerto Rico Banana

Sounds like a red.Or a Cuban red. Could be one of many kinds of red bananas.
__________________
STEELVIPER is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To STEELVIPER
Sponsors

Old 01-02-2008, 03:02 PM   #6 (permalink)
retired GMO maestro
 
inkcube's Avatar
 
Location: traveling the world
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 121
BananaBucks : 4,271
Feedback: 0 / 0%
Said "Thanks" 6 Times
Was Thanked 96 Times in 43 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 0 Times
Default Re: Puerto Rico Banana

is the fruit red? the el guineo 'Montecristo' i have seen have all been yellow and the papers i have about production do not refer to guineos having red fruit. my guess is they are Jamacan Lacatans, which was a fruit grown by Chiquita before switching to Grand Nain.
inkcube is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To inkcube
Old 03-03-2009, 09:28 PM   #7 (permalink)
 
Michael_Andrew's Avatar
 
Location: Toledo, Ohio
Zone: 6
Name: Michael
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 517
BananaBucks : 68,555
Feedback: 1 / 100%
Said "Thanks" 248 Times
Was Thanked 384 Times in 182 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 226 Times
Default Re: Puerto Rico Banana

Ok I found a picture of that pig banana:

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/...pn7V7/610x.jpg
Michael_Andrew is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To Michael_Andrew
Said thanks:
Old 03-04-2009, 01:11 AM   #8 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
chong's Avatar
 
Location: Seattle, WA
Zone: 8-9
Name: Chong
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 1,851
BananaBucks : 98,784
Feedback: 6 / 100%
Said "Thanks" 1,310 Times
Was Thanked 1,702 Times in 759 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 991 Times
Default Re: Puerto Rico Banana

Michael,
You got me on that one!
chong is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To chong
Old 03-04-2009, 01:17 AM   #9 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
chong's Avatar
 
Location: Seattle, WA
Zone: 8-9
Name: Chong
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 1,851
BananaBucks : 98,784
Feedback: 6 / 100%
Said "Thanks" 1,310 Times
Was Thanked 1,702 Times in 759 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 991 Times
Default Re: Puerto Rico Banana

Quote:
Originally Posted by inkcube View Post
is the fruit red? the el guineo 'Montecristo' i have seen have all been yellow and the papers i have about production do not refer to guineos having red fruit. my guess is they are Jamacan Lacatans, which was a fruit grown by Chiquita before switching to Grand Nain.
According to Going Bananas, the Jamaican Lacatans are similar to Philippine Lakatan, and the only difference is that the Jamaican is a shorter plant.

The original Chiquita, if I remember correctly, was the Musa Gros Michel, whose fruit is similar to the current Cavendish in color, size, and texture.
chong is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To chong
Old 04-11-2009, 04:25 PM   #10 (permalink)
 
shopgirl2's Avatar
 
Location: Camp Lejeune, N.C. area
Zone: 8
Name: Carmensol
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 212
BananaBucks : 146,587
Feedback: 0 / 0%
Said "Thanks" 61 Times
Was Thanked 48 Times in 27 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 1 Times
Send a message via Yahoo to shopgirl2
Default Re: Puerto Rico Banana

hehehe, really funny. hehehe
__________________
Orinoco by the sunlight.
shopgirl2 is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To shopgirl2
Old 04-11-2009, 05:46 PM   #11 (permalink)
Member
 
john_ny's Avatar
 
Location: Staten Island, NY - southernmost county in NY State.
Zone: USDA7- Sunset34
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 2,014
BananaBucks : 618,019
Feedback: 5 / 100%
Said "Thanks" 1,057 Times
Was Thanked 2,284 Times in 832 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 37 Times
Default Re: Puerto Rico Banana

In the 70s and 80s, I spent some time in St. Lucia. They had lots of bananas there, but they were all shipped to the U.K., rather than the U.S. I asked some of the locals about them, and they told me they were Gros Michel. They also said that people in Great Britain preferred a slightly smaller banana (Gros Michel) than people in the U.S. (Gran Nain)
__________________
John

john_ny is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To john_ny
Old 04-11-2009, 07:26 PM   #12 (permalink)
 
Caloosamusa's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 3,578
BananaBucks : 28,087
Feedback: 1 / 67%
Said "Thanks" 3,829 Times
Was Thanked 1,556 Times in 675 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 334 Times
Default Re: Puerto Rico Banana

Check out Chongs photo gallery. He's posted a picture of the fruit and it does not seem to a Fe'i.
Caloosamusa is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To Caloosamusa
Old 04-11-2009, 10:55 PM   #13 (permalink)
The causasian Asian!
 
Chironex's Avatar
 
Location: Jakarta, Indonesia
Zone: I have no idea
Name: Scot
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 2,788
BananaBucks : 121,293
Feedback: 9 / 100%
Said "Thanks" 4,544 Times
Was Thanked 1,406 Times in 808 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 609 Times
Send a message via MSN to Chironex Send a message via Yahoo to Chironex
Default Re: Puerto Rico Banana

It has me wondering whether the Montecristo and Guineo Montecristo are one and the same. These are another name for the Jamaican Lacatan. These can grow quite tall, so perhaps it is a Dwarf Jamaican/Cuban Red. They must be nearly black before they are ripe just as Brent said. These are sub-species of Cavendish bananas.
__________________
Scot


Click for Jakarta, Indonesia Forecast
Chironex is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To Chironex
Said thanks:
Old 04-12-2009, 12:16 AM   #14 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
chong's Avatar
 
Location: Seattle, WA
Zone: 8-9
Name: Chong
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 1,851
BananaBucks : 98,784
Feedback: 6 / 100%
Said "Thanks" 1,310 Times
Was Thanked 1,702 Times in 759 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 991 Times
Default Re: Puerto Rico Banana

Monte_Cristo banana internationally is the Bungulan, whose photos I posted earlier, and is called Kluai Hom Khieu/Kiau in Thailand, Pisang Ambon Lumut or Pisang Masak Hijau in Malysia and Indonesia, Hamakua in Hawaii.

It gets interesting when you try a search for various banana cultivars from Puerto Rico. Guineo Montecristo will bring you to 2 nursery sites, and each site has a different description of this.

One says that Guineo Montecristo is the same as Cavendish Var Jayuya in response to my enquiry - " JAyuya y Monte Cristo son lo mismo...solo que mi cv vino de Jayuya."

The other says that it is red when green(unripe) and yellowing with traces of red when ripe. This is more commonly known as "Morado" in South America and the Caribbean, and apparently hails from Monte Cristi area.

Then a third large nursery in PR that specializes in tropical fruit trees and palms, describe one of their banana variety as " 'Martinico' Gigante Gros Michel Banana". It goes further to describe the fruit as "It is a large, tall plant bearing long bunches of large yellow (sic) fruits. It produces excellent fruit with a slight sub-acid taste. The fruits are green (sic)when ripe." If the latter description (green when ripe) is the intended one for this particular variety, then it is possibly the one internationally known as Monte Cristo.

Last edited by chong : 04-12-2009 at 12:19 AM. Reason: clarified reference
chong is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To chong
Said thanks:
Old 04-12-2009, 12:39 AM   #15 (permalink)
The causasian Asian!
 
Chironex's Avatar
 
Location: Jakarta, Indonesia
Zone: I have no idea
Name: Scot
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 2,788
BananaBucks : 121,293
Feedback: 9 / 100%
Said "Thanks" 4,544 Times
Was Thanked 1,406 Times in 808 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 609 Times
Send a message via MSN to Chironex Send a message via Yahoo to Chironex
Default Re: Puerto Rico Banana

Well, I think I have all the bases covered. I have Montecristo, Morado and Enano Gigante as well as Gigante blanco (I think). Plus I have all kinds of Reds. Dwarf Jamaican/Cuban, Green/Red, Lacatan, Rose, and probably some others that don't come to mind right now.
Still trying to find a Sartre though. That's one that's supposed to be one of the most heat tolerant.
__________________
Scot


Click for Jakarta, Indonesia Forecast
Chironex is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To Chironex
Reply   Email this Page Email this Page






Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
New member in Puerto Vallarta Mexico luc vleeracker Member Introductions 13 05-03-2012 10:34 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:42 AM.





All content © Bananas.org & the respective author.