Super SMALL bananas - Page 2

HMelendez · 06-04-2018, 06:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tytaylor77

They come up so early! In the spring I’m talking around the same time as the Orinoco and namwa! Very surprising since they are an AA which do NOT like cool weather! These are so close to fruiting in a single season for me. They bloom about 8-9’. The first year planted they flowered just as winter hit. This year is messed up. So next year will be the test! Which I am very excited for!

Ty bro,

I know you have everything sorted out!.....You will have The Dwarf Niño flowering, blooming and harvesting the fruit in a single season, hopefully next year!.....Dwarf Niño it's an amazing Nana grower!.....Since she has been on the ground , my Dwarf Niño has pushed out new leaves very fast!.....She just opened, unrolled the new beautiful green/yellowish leaf!.....Thank you bro for sending me a beautiful, very fast grower Nana Variety!.....

Pictures from 06/03/2018.....

PR-Giants · 06-06-2018, 08:11 AM

That doesn't look like a Niño and it doesn't even appear to be a dwarf.

It does look like a beautiful plant, congrats.

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Originally Posted by HMelendez

Ty bro,

I know you have everything sorted out!.....You will have The Dwarf Niño flowering, blooming and harvesting the fruit in a single season, hopefully next year!.....Dwarf Niño it's an amazing Nana grower!.....Since she has been on the ground , my Dwarf Niño has pushed out new leaves very fast!.....She just opened, unrolled the new beautiful green/yellowish leaf!.....Thank you bro for sending me a beautiful, very fast grower Nana Variety!.....

Pictures from 06/03/2018.....

Tytaylor77 · 06-06-2018, 11:56 AM

Haha
More attacks by PR Giants imagine that!

Musa Nino Enano.
Source is USDA Tars In PR and if that is the case then your entire collection is incorrect!
Plus this clone has been verified at flowering.

There is absolutely no way to ID a plant that is this small.

You should go ID the “real deal” FHIA-01 Goldfinger that you sold to Hector. It’s looking like an off-type to me. You should also check your Musa cocos clone, it grows to 11’+

Also often times plants in the tropics look different due to disseses and other problems. Your plants could look “different” due to this. You should have your commercial plantation checked ASAP! Especially how you send plants bare root and with soil. With TR4 found in Jamacia we must all be vigilant!!

Hector thanks for your picture! When it fruits you will have confirmation that it is a Niño enano!

PR-Giants · 06-06-2018, 07:04 PM

There is a very simple scoring system.

Most people should realize the dwarf nino is

a dwarf
Group AA
Subgroup Sucrier

If it's not a dwarf then it can't be a dwarf nino.
If it's not an AA then it can't be a dwarf nino.
If it's not a Sucrier then it can't be a dwarf nino.

Only one of those statements need to be true for it not to be a dwarf nino.

Then all anyone needs to do is look at the photos.
If someone isn't familiar with the descriptors of a dwarf nino then access a passport online.

This doesn't identify the cultivar but it does eliminate other Groups and Subgroups and obviously if you eliminate AA or Sucrier it can't be a dwarf nino.

In most banana growing countries even children can identify some Groups and Subgroups just by looking at them even if the plants are young.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tytaylor77

Haha
More attacks by PR Giants imagine that!

Musa Nino Enano.
Source is USDA Tars In PR and if that is the case then your entire collection is incorrect!
Plus this clone has been verified at flowering.

There is absolutely no way to ID a plant that is this small.

You should go ID the “real deal” FHIA-01 Goldfinger that you sold to Hector. It’s looking like an off-type to me. You should also check your Musa cocos clone, it grows to 11’+

Also often times plants in the tropics look different due to disseses and other problems. Your plants could look “different” due to this. You should have your commercial plantation checked ASAP! Especially how you send plants bare root and with soil. With TR4 found in Jamacia we must all be vigilant!!

Hector thanks for your picture! When it fruits you will have confirmation that it is a Niño enano!

Tytaylor77 · 06-06-2018, 11:55 PM

Plant has been potted for over a year. Hector will keep the forum updated and we will see when it flowers.

I know what I grow and so does USDA Tars PR.
My reputation speaks for itself and my customers know that and know my standards.
I’m done. Don’t have time for your childish attacks and games. So keep replying as I’m sure you will.

1margarette · 06-07-2018, 12:27 AM

Oh wow, they look so cute this is the very first time that I have seen a small banana three.

HMelendez · 06-08-2018, 06:04 AM

*****I won't enter here in a dispute or an argument!.....From my part this ends here!......I don't have time for that!*****

Ty bro, thank you for sent me an awesome Dwarf Niño Nana plant!....I know that you got your Dwarf Niño Nana Variety (In spanish Niño Enano) from TARS and that she have the true, correct ID, as Dwarf Niño!....As you mentioned, your standards and your reputation speaks by itself!....I'm posting pictures from TARS to use as reference, for comparison, as she grows, flowers, blooms, etc......I will keep the forum updated!.....

Pictures of Dwarf Niño (Niño Enano) from TARS!.....

A couple of update pictures from Dwarf Niño (Niño Enano) taken on 06/07/2018.....She is pushing out the new cigar leaf!....Keeps growing fast!....

*****Woohoo!......Updates will keep coming!*****

beam2050 · 06-08-2018, 11:41 AM

you need to put a sign on her saying; MI HIJA NINO ENANA. for us English speaking folks that's a tongue twister.

for all you English speaking folks it would be pronounced; meha nino enana. [my daughter; mi hija]

HMelendez · 06-08-2018, 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beam2050

you need to put a sign on her saying; MI HIJA NINO ENANA. for us English speaking folks that's a tongue twister.

for all you English speaking folks it would be pronounced; miha nino enana. [my daughter; mi hija]

You did it again!.....That is why you are Master Beam!.....LMAO!......hahahahahaha!......

beam2050 · 06-08-2018, 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HMelendez

You did it again!.....That is why you are Master Beam!.....LMAO!......hahahahahaha!......

I had to change my translation from miha to meha.

course if into calling your bananas by grandfather, father, son. it would be; meho nino enano. could be a worse twister. miho nino enano, meha nina enana.

HMelendez · 06-09-2018, 04:47 AM

*****Dwarf Niño (Niño Enano) Update!*****

All pictures from 06/08/2018....

Yeehaaa!......Something unexpected just happened!.......Dwarf Niño started to pup already!.....Amazing!.....Must be all the frequently banana nectar (rain)!.......Also, she opened a new beautiful green/yellowish bigger leaf!......She is pushing out new leaves very fast now!......Look at all that space behind the Dwarf Niño (Pictures 3 and 4)!......Woohoo!......As long as I have space for one more, Nanas will keep coming!......

*****Updates will keep coming!*****

beam2050 · 06-09-2018, 08:04 AM

the rains been wonderful. but don't say anything to tytalor or the other texicans in his area. its been fun one day you look and the next, where did you come from. I have pups popping up everywhere.

HMelendez · 06-10-2018, 10:46 AM

Woohoo!.....Went yesterday (06/09/2018) to Homestead Marketplace in South Florida and look what I found!......

The much beloved Orito, an AA Classification baby Nanas from Ecuador!....Very sweet baby Nanas!.....One of my favorites!.....I'm trying to bring this baby Nana Variety to grow in continental US!.....Trust me, I will!.....

Pictures from 06/09/2018.....

PR-Giants · 12-13-2019, 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HMelendez

Dwarf Niño keeps pushing out the flower bud!.....I have no doubts that flower is from an AA Nana Variety!

Quote:

Originally Posted by HMelendez

Dwarf Niño flower bud is out!....It should start positioning down now!......I have no doubts is an AA Nana Variety!......Look at the flower!.....

Hector, I told you when you first posted a photo of the Dwarf Nino that Tytaylor77 sent you that it was not a Dwarf Nino.

Everyone that saw your photo should have been able to realize that your banana was not a dwarf, and if it's not a dwarf it can't be a Dwarf Nino.

If you had simply measured a leaf blade and divided the length by the width you would have realized that it was not a dwarf.

Unfortunately it's very common for some seller's to ship the wrong bananas and that's why buyer's should take a few minutes to learn the basics about identifying a banana.

Links To Help Identify Your Banana

Next, you should have looked at your banana for signs of balbisiana.

The Dwarf Nino is an 'AA' diploid and has no signs of balbisiana.

Again, everyone that saw your photo should have been able to realize that your banana has balbisiana in it so it can't be a Dwarf Nino or any other 'AA' diploid or 'AAA' triploid.

Next, you should try to determine the amount of balbisiana it has.

Again, everyone that saw your photo should have been able to realize that your banana has a heavy amount of balbisana and most likely is an 'ABB' type.

There was never a chance that your banana was a Dwarf Nino because everything pointed to an 'ABB'

It should never have taken you over a year to figure that out.

The next step was to figure out which 'ABB' cultivar Tytaylor77 sent you.

Quote:

Originally Posted by HMelendez

Also, the "supposedly" prior Dwarf Niño turned out to be the Musa Monthan!

It was not surprising that your 'AA' Dwarf Nino turned out to be an 'ABB' Monthan.

cincinnana · 12-14-2019, 01:16 AM

Great looking fruit..

Botanical_Bryce · 01-10-2020, 08:52 PM

Keith, I have the Nino you speak of. I was confused when I received it. Looked orinoco like from day one. HMelendez wouldn't address anything in my post. Only PM. Gabe sent me a PM as well with photos I could use to identify. The plant is cold hardy like balbisiana, has very long petioles like balbisiana, and the petioles are closed like balbisiana but maybe a tad open when young. Here is my original post Need identity info for Nino and dwarf Nino. It was this plant and this topic that made me lose interest in this forum.

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR-Giants

Hector, I told you when you first posted a photo of the Dwarf Nino that Tytaylor77 sent you that it was not a Dwarf Nino.

Everyone that saw your photo should have been able to realize that your banana was not a dwarf, and if it's not a dwarf it can't be a Dwarf Nino.

If you had simply measured a leaf blade and divided the length by the width you would have realized that it was not a dwarf.

Unfortunately it's very common for some seller's to ship the wrong bananas and that's why buyer's should take a few minutes to learn the basics about identifying a banana.

Links To Help Identify Your Banana

Next, you should have looked at your banana for signs of balbisiana.

The Dwarf Nino is an 'AA' diploid and has no signs of balbisiana.

Again, everyone that saw your photo should have been able to realize that your banana has balbisiana in it so it can't be a Dwarf Nino or any other 'AA' diploid or 'AAA' triploid.

Next, you should try to determine the amount of balbisiana it has.

Again, everyone that saw your photo should have been able to realize that your banana has a heavy amount of balbisana and most likely is an 'ABB' type.

There was never a chance that your banana was a Dwarf Nino because everything pointed to an 'ABB'

It should never have taken you over a year to figure that out.

The next step was to figure out which 'ABB' cultivar Tytaylor77 sent you.

It was not surprising that your 'AA' Dwarf Nino turned out to be an 'ABB' Monthan.

06-06-2018, 11:56 AM	#23 (permalink)
Tytaylor77 Banana Plants for Trade Location: East Texas Find me on the map! Zone: 8b Name: Ty Join Date: Jun 2015 Posts: 1,367 BananaBucks : 49,819 Feedback: 11 / 100% Said "Thanks" 4,608 Times Was Thanked 3,726 Times in 1,185 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 424 Times	Re: Super SMALL bananas Haha More attacks by PR Giants imagine that! Musa Nino Enano. Source is USDA Tars In PR and if that is the case then your entire collection is incorrect! Plus this clone has been verified at flowering. There is absolutely no way to ID a plant that is this small. You should go ID the “real deal” FHIA-01 Goldfinger that you sold to Hector. It’s looking like an off-type to me. You should also check your Musa cocos clone, it grows to 11’+ Also often times plants in the tropics look different due to disseses and other problems. Your plants could look “different” due to this. You should have your commercial plantation checked ASAP! Especially how you send plants bare root and with soil. With TR4 found in Jamacia we must all be vigilant!! Hector thanks for your picture! When it fruits you will have confirmation that it is a Niño enano! __________________ 150+ Varieties!!. See profile for list. Help me add more! CLICK HERE TO SEE PICTURES OF MY MUSA COLLECTION! www.bananapups.com

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Tytaylor77 Banana Plants for Trade Location: East Texas Find me on the map! Zone: 8b Name: Ty Join Date: Jun 2015 Posts: 1,367 BananaBucks : 49,819 Feedback: 11 / 100% Said "Thanks" 4,608 Times Was Thanked 3,726 Times in 1,185 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 424 Times	Re: Super SMALL bananas Plant has been potted for over a year. Hector will keep the forum updated and we will see when it flowers. I know what I grow and so does USDA Tars PR. My reputation speaks for itself and my customers know that and know my standards. I’m done. Don’t have time for your childish attacks and games. So keep replying as I’m sure you will. __________________ 150+ Varieties!!. See profile for list. Help me add more! CLICK HERE TO SEE PICTURES OF MY MUSA COLLECTION! www.bananapups.com Last edited by Tytaylor77 : 06-07-2018 at 02:02 AM.

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HMelendez The Banana Gang Enforcer Zone: 10B-11 Join Date: Aug 2014 Posts: 2,750 BananaBucks : 201,583 Feedback: 5 / 100% Said "Thanks" 11,094 Times Was Thanked 5,279 Times in 1,618 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 737 Times	Re: Super SMALL bananas ***Dwarf Niño (Niño Enano) Update!* All pictures from 06/08/2018.... Yeehaaa!......Something unexpected just happened!.......Dwarf Niño started to pup already!.....Amazing!.....Must be all the frequently banana nectar (rain)!.......Also, she opened a new beautiful green/yellowish bigger leaf!......She is pushing out new leaves very fast now!......Look at all that space behind the Dwarf Niño (Pictures 3 and 4)!......Woohoo!......As long as I have space for one more, Nanas will keep coming!...... *Updates will keep coming!* __________________ HMelendez Photo Gallery** Last edited by HMelendez : 06-09-2018 at 09:36 AM.

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beam2050 banana cereal killer Location: middleburg fl. Find me on the map! Zone: 9b-8a Name: walkinbeam Join Date: Sep 2016 Posts: 2,432 BananaBucks : 1,304 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Thanks" 10,742 Times Was Thanked 3,360 Times in 1,543 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 816 Times	Re: Super SMALL bananas the rains been wonderful. but don't say anything to tytalor or the other texicans in his area. its been fun one day you look and the next, where did you come from. I have pups popping up everywhere. __________________ ................................................... npk of wood ash 0/1/3 to 0/3/7 npk of banana leaf ash 1.75/0.75/0.5

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