Unknown banana from Italia

redflash · 07-19-2007, 02:07 AM

Hi,

I got a banana from Italia, but I don`t know what kind of banana.

I hope you can help me!

Here the pictures

http://s152.photobucket.com/albums/s...nbekannt-2.jpg

http://s152.photobucket.com/albums/s...urrent=ubk.jpg

http://s152.photobucket.com/albums/s...unbekannts.jpg

Thank you

Francesco · 07-19-2007, 03:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redflash

Hi,

I got a banana from Italia, but I don`t know what kind of banana.

I hope you can help me!

Here the pictures

http://s152.photobucket.com/albums/s...nbekannt-2.jpg

http://s152.photobucket.com/albums/s...urrent=ubk.jpg

http://s152.photobucket.com/albums/s...unbekannts.jpg

Thank you

I cannot see your pics. Sorry.
Here in Southern Italy we have a widely grown var. of banana, called "Comune di Sicilia". Nobody of the experts I listened until now has other naming. Some people says that seems it is a derivation of Orinoco or Manzano var.
Here some pics of mine specimens:
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i6...o/IM000265.jpg
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i6...anano_Wide.jpg
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i6...nano_zoom1.jpg

redflash · 07-19-2007, 03:58 AM

Hi,

thank you, yes it looks like my plant.

I have it from the area Liguria (San Remo). My dad had there spoken to a man, he says that this banana grows in many gardens without any protection.

In the first moment I thought it was a musa balbisana. But the sheets are not so green.

I thank you very for your help, because nobody cant help me in the german banana forum.

Greets to Italy

Andreas

bigdog · 07-19-2007, 06:29 AM

Francesco, is your banana an edible variety, or does it have seeds? It has a lot of Musa balbisiana blood in it.

Andreas, your links do not work.

redflash · 07-19-2007, 06:35 AM

Now I hope that you can see the pictures:

http://s152.photobucket.com/albums/s...urrent=ubk.jpg

http://s152.photobucket.com/albums/s...nbekannt-2.jpg

http://s152.photobucket.com/albums/s...unbekannts.jpg

Andreas

Francesco · 07-19-2007, 07:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigdog

Francesco, is your banana an edible variety, or does it have seeds? It has a lot of Musa balbisiana blood in it.

Andreas, your links do not work.

I had not notate until now any seed inside and Yes...it is edible and little sweet when mature.

It is many centuries that such banana var. (apparentely it is the only coltivated here in Sicily!...) is grown here.

gianluk · 09-11-2007, 03:25 PM

Hi guys,

I am Italian too, but from the North.

Here Bananas are grown in many gardens since my memory can recall. There was an article on the city news paper a few months, saynig that a 30yrs old cultivar of Musa Paradisiaca had grown edible bananas... thanks also to the greenhouse effect, that turned our zone 7 into zone 8 or even higher.

Looking at your pics, I'd say your bananas are Musa Paradisiaca or Cavendish or even Dwarf Cavendish. These are the most common cultivars here in Italy, I'd say up until now, the only ones.

Possibly, considering that Sicily has a very mild climate, in the therms of North Africa, infact there you can grow Ficuses, Birds or Paradise, Cacti, outdoor without protection; I was saying consindering these important factors, I guess that the Common Sicilian Banana must have been imported from Asia or Africa many centuries ago, where it was an endemic specie, therefore it must be simply one of those Musa Sp. we all love. Matter of fact, bananas species among other exotic stuff, where imported massively during the Roman Empire.

Ciao,

G

redflash · 09-12-2007, 10:19 AM

Hi,
thank you for your post!
Are the bananas in Verona in winter protected?
I have seen, that the temperature goes gown to -5C!

I think that my banana from Italy is a specie M.Paradisica!
It is not a cawendish!

Ciao
Andreas

gianluk · 09-12-2007, 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redflash

Hi,
thank you for your post!
Are the bananas in Verona in winter protected?
I have seen, that the temperature goes gown to -5C!

I think that my banana from Italy is a specie M.Paradisica!
It is not a cawendis

Ciao
Andreas

Hi Andreas,

as far as I know, some people do protect them some doesn't. I have seed many bananas just loosing their leaves in winter but not the stem. I will leave my bananas unprotected this winter, except for the little ensete, which I will mulch and cover with something, so the don't get frezen.

LAst year, we had a very mild winter, my Sago Palms lost their leaves but resprout in spring. Alocasia Odora, same thing.

G

Dombo · 02-06-2008, 08:29 AM

Hello Andreas,

may be I'm wrong, but your Musa looks like a Musa basjoo.
I have a dessert banana from Sicilia, this looks like that from Francesco.
I got it from VIVAI TORRE, in S.Pietro di Milazzo.

Quote:

Originally Posted by redflash

Hi,

I thank you very for your help, because nobody cant help me in the german banana forum.

Greets to Italy

Andreas

sorry, but your question was never asked in the german banana-forum.
You mean the german exotic forum.

mskitty38583 · 02-06-2008, 10:55 AM

dombo
that is a lovely picture. your garden? well whom ever it is has done a beautiful job. love the nana as a specimine tree. it is lovely.

Dombo · 02-06-2008, 11:16 AM

Hello mskitty,

yes, it is my garden.
Thanks a lot.

magicgreen · 02-06-2008, 12:04 PM

Dombo, Your yard is beautiful! Got another picture?............. Magicgreen

Dombo · 02-06-2008, 12:38 PM

Hello Magicgreen,

thanks.

here still another photo of my Musa ??? perhaps "Comune di Sicilia"

I'm working on my homepage, there will be a lot of photos.
When it is ready, I will tell you.

magicgreen · 02-06-2008, 01:17 PM

Dombo, that looks real pretty!.......This will be my 1st Spring with my pretties!!! I cant wait to see my Dwarf cavendish look like that! And I too will have flowers around my bananas! Have a good day! Magicgreen

redflash · 02-08-2008, 03:03 AM

Hi,
that i don`t get any problems,
i gon no answer in a german exotic-forum

,
not in a german banana-forum.

Andreas

redflash · 09-07-2010, 11:59 AM

Hello,

2 years later the musa is starting blooming now.

Andreas

Gabe15 · 09-07-2010, 12:52 PM

Nice photos. It is Musa basjoo.

jeffreyp · 09-07-2010, 11:43 PM

initially from afar I was going to say orinoco, but gabe's got it right!

Dombo · 09-08-2010, 03:28 AM

Hello,

... some threads before.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dombo

Hello Andreas,

may be I'm wrong, but your Musa looks like a Musa basjoo.

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