Sucrier (Pisang Mas) taste report

robguz24 · 08-16-2012, 06:56 PM

Well I don't have enough to share and can't send them from Hawaii anyway, but I harvested my first Sucrier recently and thought I'd share my taste impressions. I've also seen this referred to as Kluay Khai (spelled different ways).

Sweet! The name means "sugar" or "sugar bowl" and it certainly lives up to that. I waited until it was firm ripe. Almost no black on the peel. I thought it would be underripe, but it was surprisingly mushy in mouth feel compared to how firm the fruit felt. It was mushy in a different (better) way than a cavendish. It tastes quite a lot like a chico sapodilla fruit, also known as brown sugar fruit. There was more depth to it than just being sweet, with a brown sugar taste. I'd say it was good, but almost too much. My favorite bananas are dwarf brazillians, which have some acidity and a firm texture. I'll try the rest of the bunch at various stages of ripeness.

Update-10 days later ate my last one from this bunch. I've read that they should be eaten very ripe with almost black skin. I'd disagree with that-too sweet but firmness held up well on one with only some black. Yellow with slight green at the tips was ok, a little vegetal, and it seemed best with no sign of green or black on the peel.

brod · 08-29-2012, 04:16 PM

Thanks for the taste test Rob. Do you have a photo of the plant and bunch?

sunfish · 08-29-2012, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by robguz24

Well I don't have enough to share and can't send them from Hawaii anyway, but I harvested my first Sucrier recently and thought I'd share my taste impressions. I've also seen this referred to as Kluay Khai (spelled different ways).

Sweet! The name means "sugar" or "sugar bowl" and it certainly lives up to that. I waited until it was firm ripe. Almost no black on the peel. I thought it would be underripe, but it was surprisingly mushy in mouth feel compared to how firm the fruit felt. It was mushy in a different (better) way than a cavendish. It tastes quite a lot like a chico sapodilla fruit, also known as brown sugar fruit. There was more depth to it than just being sweet, with a brown sugar taste. I'd say it was good, but almost too much. My favorite bananas are dwarf brazillians, which have some acidity and a firm texture. I'll try the rest of the bunch at various stages of ripeness.

Update-10 days later ate my last one from this bunch. I've read that they should be eaten very ripe with almost black skin. I'd disagree with that-too sweet but firmness held up well on one with only some black. Yellow with slight green at the tips was ok, a little vegetal, and it seemed best with no sign of green or black on the peel.

Do you have a pic of the plant ? Thanks

robguz24 · 08-29-2012, 07:16 PM

Male bud

pstem up close, iridescent yellow-green

3 months ago

immature fruit

harvested small bunch on the left

sunfish · 08-29-2012, 07:44 PM

They stay pretty short .Dwarf size ?

robguz24 · 08-29-2012, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by sunfish

They stay pretty short .Dwarf size ?

Mine are pretty short, maybe 7' of pstem before fruiting. I've seen more mature mats here (of hapai, the "pregnant banana"-basically the same banana) that seem to get taller, maybe 12'. The largest pup of the original is already thicker and taller than the first that I just harvested, and no flower yet.

shilisha · 10-09-2012, 04:03 AM

Amazing photos!Pretty shots!

momoese · 10-09-2012, 10:04 AM

Thanks for the report Rob. So basically even when barely ripe they exhibit no sub acid flavor?

robguz24 · 10-09-2012, 01:44 PM

Nope, no hint of tanginess. Happened to get a couple more hands of this recently from a friend who harvested some and didn't know what kind they were. Mine were a little better and the fruit was larger. Also had some in Rome a few weeks ago at an indoor market near the Vatican. Unripe and chalky, inedible and threw them away.

caliboy1994 · 10-09-2012, 09:36 PM

I had Oritos from the market once, which I believe are in the same subgroup. They were good, creamier and sweeter than Cavendish bananas. Those are best to eat when they have a decent amount of brown on them.

venturabananas · 10-10-2012, 01:26 AM

Rob, your taste report is right on -- we must share similar taste buds. Very sweet, no acidity at all, mushy texture, and nice aroma. I would never choose them over your staple, Dwarf Brazilian.

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