Cold hardy banana in GA

winsorw · 08-04-2009, 09:53 AM

Does anyone know what kind of banana listed in eBay as 330346326885 is?

Cold Hardy Banana Tree's-Real banana's-Musa - eBay (item 330346326885 end time Aug-19-09 22:20:30 PDT)

Thanks.

Richard · 08-04-2009, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by winsorw

Does anyone know what kind of banana listed in eBay as 330346326885 is?

Cold Hardy Banana Tree's-Real banana's-Musa - eBay (item 330346326885 end time Aug-19-09 22:20:30 PDT)

This is Fraudulent Banana. The description will send most people who have grown bananas into uncontrollable fits of laughter:

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Hi! I grow cold hardy banana tree's that make real bananas. These are cold musa banana tree's. They are cold hardy to -20 degrees. These pics are of the trees in my back yard. These plants are easy to grow and can be planted anywere. They do best planting in groups of 4 for pollination.

CESAR · 08-04-2009, 10:45 AM

Hi

- 20degres; hard to believe but
- 40dollars for shure

Jack Daw · 08-04-2009, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by CESAR

Hi

- 20degres; hard to believe but
- 40dollars for shure

Curious, Ante was also writting "shure" instad of "sure". Wow. What a chance.

Btw. don't really hope to get anything good from that description, no banana is easy to grow in -20°C or °F.

CESAR · 08-04-2009, 11:05 AM

shure" instad of "sure".

Sorry everyone but I speak a little Franssmérican...

CESAR · 08-04-2009, 11:13 AM

I think Jack, that the bananas we see on the picture are Orinoco but I think its possible to get them in the US for less money in a good farm.
What do yo think?

winsorw · 08-04-2009, 11:17 AM

I thought it might be so I emailed the seller, and she said "20 below freezing. So like 0 degrees would be fine. We have these temps here in Ga.":-)

Richard · 08-04-2009, 12:48 PM

That seller is factually incorrect. Seedless (edible) bananas do not need pollination. Further, -20 F is very different from 32 - 20 = 12 F -- which is still far too cold.

Then there are the issues of exorbitant price ($40) and "No Returns Accepted". Definitely a seller to avoid until they get their facts straight (including listing the name of the variety) and bring their prices down from the stratosphere.

browndrake · 08-04-2009, 04:13 PM

Perhaps I went a wee bit overboard, but I sent an email to the seller:

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What cultivar of bananas are you selling? I love cold hardy musas. However, there are many problems with your post that are either based on ignorance or fraud. As far as I know,( and every expert with whom I have spoken) there is no edible banana that is cold hardy to -20. Furthermore, no edible banana requires a pollinator.

IF your plants are cold hardy to -20 and have edible bananas, I can sell everyone of them for MUCH MORE than you are asking here. If they are not, then what you are asking is a very high price.

You are in Perry, Georgia, USDA zone 8..which never(or rarely) drops into single digits..let alone -20.. Upon what do you base your description?

If your description is accurate, then I can assure you that I can find sales for EVERY banana you can grow, if not...please do us all a favor and change the description.

and here is the response:

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People like you is what is wrong with this world! If you were a happy individual, you wouldnt be sending e-mails like this to anyone. I grow plants for a living. Get a life! You have way to much time on your hands!!!

I think that this is the translation:
People like you (people with integrity) are what is wrong with this world!... ... ... I grow plants for a living. (and lie about them and sell them to unsuspecting people.) Get a life...(let me swindle people in peace)..
.................
words that are attributed to Edmund Burke come to mind:
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing."

aaron

CESAR · 08-04-2009, 04:32 PM

Hi Browndrake.

Thanks to let us knowin more about that guy. Seems to be a special one.

He wants to say that in his world, we are wrong, and he is true.

I think that this guy is very smart seller (dont know if its the right term)

Confusing people with the cold tolerance, pushing them to buy four plants to get fruits, talking like he s growing plants in his backyard as a hobby ...selling four time the price...Great job.

Hope Musasgod will punish him for this.

Jack Daw · 08-04-2009, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by CESAR

Hi Browndrake.

Thanks to let us knowin more about that guy. Seems to be a special one.

He wants to say that in his world, we are wrong, and he is true.

I think that this guy is very smart seller (dont know if its the right term)

Confusing people with the cold tolerance, pushing them to buy four plants to get fruits, talking like he s growing plants in his backyard as a hobby ...selling four time the price...Great job.

Hope Musasgod will punish him for this.

Yep, you used the right term.
I hate people like that seller and that's why I want to educate in the field of (not only) bananas as much as possible, so that once I won't be a target for future fraud dealers.
When I come to think of it, he's just an ordinary *******. But it's always been only *******s, that were comfortable stealing from other people. A sane and normal man or woman wouldn't do that.
Well, maybe there's a small girl inside of him just banging on the door wanting to be released to this world and he silences her this way...

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Originally Posted by CESAR

I think Jack, that the bananas we see on the picture are Orinoco but I think its possible to get them in the US for less money in a good farm.
What do yo think?

I think so, maybe he even went so far and that's some hardier variant of Orinoco, maybe Cali Cold Hardy.

sbl · 08-04-2009, 05:27 PM

Unless he is talking about Musa Basjoo (not edible) I think it is a fraud since clearly edible bananas do not need pollination. I don't know about Basjoo, but if it does need pollination, How do you get syncronized blooming?

Jack Daw · 08-04-2009, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by sbl

Unless he is talking about Musa Basjoo (not edible) I think it is a fraud since clearly edible bananas do not need pollination. I don't know about Basjoo, but if it does need pollination, How do you get syncronized blooming?

You don't, it just has to bloom in the right time. But basjoo usually pushes about 2 pups of the same age and it was reported many times, that if equivalently old pup are attached to one corm, they flower at the same time...
But for basjoo I always read only 2, 2 plants are necessary for succesful pollination, not 4.
OK.

winsorw · 08-04-2009, 06:28 PM

I looked at the seller's feedbacks and there were at least two buyers in June and July. They were sold at 4 for $40 before this one.

Jack Daw · 08-04-2009, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by winsorw

I looked at the seller's feedbacks and there were at least two buyers in June and July. They were sold at 4 for $40 before this one.

Well, everyone's responsible for his own luck. I just hope that the bad experience won't set them back on their banana journey.

winsorw · 08-05-2009, 09:06 AM

Let's hope Jack:-)
Thank you all for feedbacks.

TommyMacLuckie · 08-05-2009, 10:08 AM

I was gonna leave 'im a message as well but for some reason I have to be a member of eBay.

The person is obviously an idiot.

The person is an idiot.

He's an idiot.

tmc2009 · 08-05-2009, 11:14 AM

Hi, I purchased a banana from Ebay specifically called California Gold from the guy who discovered it. He had links showing a local news story that was on him from around 1992. Here is a link about the information on this banana figs4fun home
If you select varieties you can read about this persons ideas on the California Gold. Here is a direct link. ENCANTO FARMS. I am in Massachusetts. I have no expectations of this surviving our winters. I just thought the hardier the better. I am currently trying to built a lean to on the house to overwinter this banana in a pot.

In my opinion the ebay listing is too generic. He should know the exact variety he has and its origin.

Hope this helps
Tom

tmc2009 · 08-05-2009, 11:21 AM

Hi, After reading the listing I have a question that for some reason I did not even think about. Will a single banana produce fruit? I see that the guy says that it best to have a group of banana plants for good pollination.

Doesn't the banana have a male and female flower part on one plant?
Thanks
Tom

sbl · 08-05-2009, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by tmc2009

Hi, After reading the listing I have a question that for some reason I did not even think about. Will a single banana produce fruit? I see that the guy says that it best to have a group of banana plants for good pollination.

Doesn't the banana have a male and female flower part on one plant?
Thanks
Tom

Edible bananas are seedless and do not need pollination (eventhough they do have both male and female flowers, only one type is open at a time--I do not know how long the female flower is able to accept pollen). But, based on what Jack said, seeded varieties like Basjoo do need pollination, but they pup together and will bloom pretty close to the same time.

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tmc2009 tmc2009's Photo Gallery Zone: 6a Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 162 BananaBucks : 92,257 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Thanks" 56 Times Was Thanked 161 Times in 45 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 0 Times	Re: Cold hardy banana in GA Hi, I purchased a banana from Ebay specifically called California Gold from the guy who discovered it. He had links showing a local news story that was on him from around 1992. Here is a link about the information on this banana figs4fun home If you select varieties you can read about this persons ideas on the California Gold. Here is a direct link. ENCANTO FARMS. I am in Massachusetts. I have no expectations of this surviving our winters. I just thought the hardier the better. I am currently trying to built a lean to on the house to overwinter this banana in a pot. In my opinion the ebay listing is too generic. He should know the exact variety he has and its origin. Hope this helps Tom

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