Tropicallvr

Andreas, just wondering where you got you M.balbisiana. Is it from seed, or is it like that that other "balbisiana" that is planted in that park in Germany that survives the winter and has more color than other balbisianas.


And do you have Musa yangtze yet, and have you tested it yet, or heard of it's hardiness from others?

redflash

Hi,
the balbisana is grown of seed. I don´t konw which form it is. I havn`t seen the balbisana in the botanical garden in Köln. But I know that this balbisana is there plant out for a few years. I get for a few weeks seeds of m.balbisana "new form".

The m.yangtse should be more harder (temperature) like a m.basjoo, but I havnt test it.

Andreas

marco

I'm very new to this site and I haven't even a clue as to what type of bananas I've been growing for the last few years.
But I've done a decent job of growing them.
(They have a very 'generic' banana leaf)
I'll get pics sometime...

But my focus up to now has been to use them ornamentally in the landscape throughout the summer while growing them in the ground still in 10 gallon pots with extra drain holes I cut.
I then transition them inside as the Ohio fall temps cool, spraying the leaf tops with a hort oil I use as an anti-desiccant, to combat the dryness of our home's interior.
With horticulture oil I essentially make them house plants in a normal home environment.
(But as long as the leaf tops are coated and they're in the house I have to be careful not to hammer them with too much light!)


My question to you is what type(s) of bananas, if any, would have any chance of cold hardiness in the area I'm in ?
I live in southern Ohio, about 35 miles north of Cincinnati, and here we're strongly zone 6.

(Please tell me there's one that might make it!)

dablo93

Thanks for the Cold Hardy lists!
now I know which species I can grow here

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mskitty38583

well i know that at the nursery that i got my musa basjoo the owner told me that i could plant that outside and leave it all winter long. he said that they were cold hardy.the tag on it said that it was hardy to 3 degrees f. i dont know about your part of the country. the banana wiki has a lot on the different nanas and i think most in the wiki tells the hardiness.

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marco

Whoa...

Are you saying that you think you can overwinter that variety in the ground in N. Indiana? Under a vast blanket of plant fiber insulation maybe?

I'm looking for a banana that I can try in S. Ohio that has had a history of cold hardiness in zone 6 temps.
Is there such a beast?
If so, what?
And what is the picture of it?

I'd like an alternative to hauling these pots in and out twice a year.

magicgreen

Marco Iam trying Musa Basjoo in my front yard now. I'll post a picture in the gallery. I cut two polyester pants legs, then put them one over the other, next I found a blanket I didnt want upstairs in the attic someplace on the 3rd floor,wrapped it on up goodddddddd on that nanna, yea I did! NEXT.....i TOOK ME SOME OF THAT SMALL SQUAREd hard wire...like they sell at home depot or lowes or somethin like that.And put it around my banana plant, BUT, GIVING it enough circumfrarance around it for me to me comfortable with the width around it. I then filled up around my baby with mulch. I hated that! Thats why with this new obsession I am pretty sure Iam moving to FLORIDA. LOOK-OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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mm4birds

Don't go crazy worrying about the cold weather. I live in New York City and have successfuly overwintered my basjoo in three seperate locations around my house for the past 5 years with varying degees of protection. Last winter I piled bags of leaves around the large clumps of banana plants and filled the center with more leaves for insulation. In the spring I removed all the leaves and bags and cut back any soft stem. By April the new growth started to emerge and then just took off. This fall the plants were huge, growing to a height of 15-20 feet until the first frost. They are now sleeping under a blanket of leaves and I hope to see them again in the spring. Mind you this won't work with any plants you hope to flower but who eats basjoo bananas anyway! The results are on my homepage.

dablo93

You can also try a Musella with some good protection?

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magicgreen

MM4birds your basjoos are beautiful! They were so healthy looking and not shredded up! I guess with the other plantings and houses they are offered some wind protection. I noticed that about mine also. No shredded leaves! I guess that says something about city living . MG

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Macro

that winter we had single digit temps and no snow on ground to insulate it from freezing hard, we dont get that very often so hope with free mulch from the town and bunch of leaves we can winter a few when get get some this spring and maybe few M. sikkimensis X paradisica if they grow from seed by them

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Tony O

I've had one planted for 10 years now. I did cover it with a pile of leaves the first couple of years, then it was on its own. Except one year that I protected one to keep its hight. That one bloomed & had little bananas that froze before ripening.

Here's a picture of it after 7 years in the garden.

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mskitty38583

nice.

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dablo93

that's a large clump!

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marco

Thank you all!

I believe I'm going to try the described 'leaf bag' method in a few protected spots around the yard next fall.

The soil's generally pretty crummy though ( a LOT of clay!)... so I'll have to work until then to make that situation better.

Until then I've got to stock up on my supply of basjoos.
I didn't get many pups this year, and I've given a bunch of my larger ones away to neighbors on our block, and to my daughters' school for use as a nice 'hallway plant' in a big picture window near both their classrooms.

I'm sure I'll find a couple more at a garden center in the spring.
This time I'll know what to look for on the tag (if it's marked correctly).

mskitty38583

IF it is clearly marked. if is the biggest word in the english lang. if you lived closer i know where you can get basjoo(tc) for $3.00 a 4 inch pot. they are healthy and they are just beautiful. ill check his webpage and see if he ships. i told him if he would ship id post his website. this is where i bought my hcm,bop,basjoo. his greenhouses...oh my gosh. they are so clean.

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Tropicallvr

Another one to add to the cold hardy list. Musa balbisiana grown in Germany-

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...3D10%26hl%3Den

algis66

Hi, I'm a newcomer to this site. I live in Los Angeles, California but I visit my cousins in Lithuania frequently. Over dinner we were talking about growing various fruits and my cousin commented that he would like to grow a banana tree but it was too cold to do so. I said we should check the internet and we found this group with references to cold hardy bananas. I even saw one of your members that lives in Vilnius the capital of Lithuania. So I joined to find out if cold hardy varieties where available and how to get, plant and grow them in Lithuania.

Thanks!

Richard

Here is a list of Edible Bananas sorted by estimated USDA Cold-hardiness Zone. Your mileage may vary:

Name USDA_Hardiness_Estimate
Texas Star 7.0
Amistad 7.5
Carolina King 7.5
Golden Rhinohorn 7.5
1000 Fingers 8.0
Dwarf Orinoco 8.0
Orinoco 8.0
California Gold 8.5
Cardaba 8.5
Double 8.5
Dwarf Brazilian 8.5
Dwarf Puerto Rican 8.5
Ebun Musak 8.5
French Horn 8.5
Giant Plantain 8.5
Goldfinger 8.5
Gran Nain 8.5
High Color Mini 8.5
Ice Cream 8.5
Kalela 8.5
Lady Finger 8.5
Mahoi 8.5
Mauritius 8.5
Mona Lisa 8.5
Monkey Fingers 8.5
Mysore 8.5
Pisang Ceylon 8.5
Pitogo 8.5
Rajapuri 8.5
Saba 8.5
1780 hybrid 9.0
African Rhino Horn 9.0
Argentino 9.0
Belle 9.0
Brazilian 9.0
Dwarf Cavendish 9.0
Dwarf Namwa 9.0
Dwarf Thai 9.0
FHIA-18 9.0
FHIA-20 9.0
FHIA-21 Plantain 9.0
FHIA-23 9.0
Green Red 9.0
Hua Moa 9.0
Iholena 9.0
Kandrian 9.0
Misi Luki of Samoa 9.0
Pace 9.0
Popoulu kaia 9.0
Red Iholene 9.0
Red Jewel 9.0
Sweetheart 9.0
Tuu Gia 9.0
White Iholena 9.0
Williams Hybrid 9.0
Zan Moreno 9.0
Ae Ae 9.5
Dwarf French 9.5
Ele Ele 9.5
Enano Nautia 9.5
FHIA-17 9.5
Golden Beauty 9.5
Manzano 9.5
Namwa 9.5
Pisang Buai 9.5
Praying Hands 9.5
Sumatrana X Gran Nain 9.5
Super Plantain 9.5
Tall Red 9.5
Valery 9.5
Kaulau 10.0
Kofi 10.0
Pisang Klutuk 10.0
Cavendish (banana) 10.5
Cocos 11.0
Dwarf Gros Michel 11.0
Dwarf Red 11.0
Gros Michel 11.0
Jamaican Red 11.0
Kappa Pazham 11.0
Pisang Tandok 11.0
Rose 11.0
Karat 12.0
Kru 12.0
Latundan 12.0
Nino 12.0
Utafun 12.0

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cowboyup4christ

I have found several sites listing that the Dwarf Orinoco and the Texas Star and the Califonia Gold are the same plant is this true just courious.

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