The cold hardy list - Page 3

Jack Daw · 07-17-2009, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by cowboyup4christ

I have found several sites listing that the Dwarf Orinoco and the Texas Star and the Califonia Gold are the same plant is this true just courious.

It shouldn't be, although they are all some Orinoco variants.

Dalmatiansoap · 07-17-2009, 11:38 AM

Is this a list with or without any protection?

kaczercat · 07-17-2009, 01:22 PM

Thanks for the list Richard, its good to know these types of things . Here is a banana site where i found over a hundred banana species. Feel free to check it out here's the link: Banana

Richard · 07-17-2009, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Dalmatiansoap

Is this a list with or without any protection?

Assume good horticultural practices but no extra measures. Note I said "your mileage may vary" because (1) a map can say you are in zone 9 but your neck of the woods is zone 8, and (2) the listed zone of the cultivar might have been at the top or bottom of the range.

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Originally Posted by kaczercat

Here is a banana site where i found over a hundred banana species.

Err ... banana cultivars. Here is are discussions of Species and Cultivar.

lkstapleton · 08-30-2009, 11:03 AM

Does anyone know where to get Carolina King or Golden Rhinohorn? I am having trouble finding them anywhere except Ty-Ty, and I definitely don't want to order from there.

Lisa

cowboyup4christ · 08-30-2009, 11:44 AM

I have an email out to a gentlemen on the outerbanks of NC. that grows Carolina King but have not heard back. I hope to get some next year. if you find a supplier let me know I don't ant to deal with tyty either.

PT DUffy · 08-30-2009, 12:23 PM

And that's just the general "Will Survive the low Temps of this Zone" rating. Blooming, Fruiting and Ripening are totally different things...unfortunately. This yr looks like a "zip" for me and my Mature Dwarf Namwa, FHIA23 and SHIA2340's with no flags yet...
Maybe next yr.....
Cheers,
Pat

fishoifc · 08-30-2009, 01:05 PM

I have golden rinohorn and actually have about six nice pups I will be removing soon.Wait I should say It is suppose to be rinohorn, it does match descriptions,It has never bloomed for me was hoping this year but dont think its going to happen.I am looking for some plants and would trade.Thanks

lkstapleton · 08-30-2009, 01:46 PM

I also see that Thousand Fingers is very cold hardy, according to this list, and I've seen other lists that say the same thing. Has anyone actually fruited one? It looks amazing, with that huge banana stalk hanging down, in all the pictures I've seen.

Lisa

Blake09 · 08-30-2009, 01:47 PM

may I ask but, whats the difference between Carolina King/and queen?? and tyty?

lkstapleton · 08-30-2009, 02:05 PM

I haven't heard of Carolina Queen, but Ty-Ty nursery and Aaron's nursery have gotten very bad reputations with rare fruit growers. I have heard many reports of dead plants, abusive customer service, and misrepresentations. I'd rather learn from others' mistakes than repeat them, so that's why I said I didn't want to order from them.

Lisa

Abnshrek · 05-28-2010, 08:11 PM

I can't believe kru is 12? WTH?

palmtree · 05-28-2010, 11:05 PM

I havent cold tested too many plants but super dwarf cavendish stays pretty green down to 30F for me and actually looks okay down to about 28F which is pretty unusual for a banana. Also I think musella is just a generally hardy plant (and also apparently pretty cold hardy too). Mine got chopped down to the ground as a small plant (not sure how it happened) and is now sprouting back from the roots and I found that pretty interesting since it was a weak and almost dieing plant.
Thai black is also suppose to be one of the more cold tolerant bananas but I wont be testing that until it makes some pups.

Good luck!

Dean W. · 05-29-2010, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Abnshrek

I can't believe kru is 12? WTH?

Where do you see that, Migael?

sunfish · 05-29-2010, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Dean W.

Where do you see that, Migael?

The cold hardy list

Dean W. · 05-29-2010, 04:31 PM

Now I see it's Zone 12 not 12th place. lol

Abnshrek · 05-29-2010, 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dean W.

Now I see it's Zone 12 not 12th place. lol

Yeah, what's the lowest temp they can take 50F? lol :^)

sunfish · 05-29-2010, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Abnshrek

Yeah, what's the lowest temp they can take 50F? lol :^)

I have Kru and pups have had no problem in low 40's

sunfish · 05-29-2010, 04:52 PM

Kru and rare pink ladder

Abnshrek · 05-29-2010, 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sunfish

Kru and rare pink ladder

Real men aren't afraid of having pink ladder's :^)

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lkstapleton Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 64 BananaBucks : 29,908 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Thanks" 36 Times Was Thanked 62 Times in 28 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 0 Times	Re: The cold hardy list Does anyone know where to get Carolina King or Golden Rhinohorn? I am having trouble finding them anywhere except Ty-Ty, and I definitely don't want to order from there. Lisa __________________

08-30-2009, 11:44 AM	#46 (permalink)
cowboyup4christ cowboyup4christ's Photo Gallery Location: Carthage NC Find me on the map! Zone: 8 Name: Jim Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 327 BananaBucks : 62,750 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Thanks" 14 Times Was Thanked 217 Times in 93 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 0 Times	Re: The cold hardy list I have an email out to a gentlemen on the outerbanks of NC. that grows Carolina King but have not heard back. I hope to get some next year. if you find a supplier let me know I don't ant to deal with tyty either. __________________ Isa 40:31 But they that wait upon the LORD shall renew their strength; they shall mount up with wings as eagles; they shall run, and not be weary; and they shall walk, and not faint. In Christ Jim Babb Chile peppers go good with anything even naners and Ice Cream http://www.uponhigherground.com/waddscreek/ http://www.hs.facebook.com/pages/Car...m/254209619224

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PT DUffy PT DUffy's Photo Gallery Location: Fort Walton Beach, Florida Find me on the map! Zone: 8b Name: Pat Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 60 BananaBucks : 26,700 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Thanks" 3 Times Was Thanked 40 Times in 25 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 0 Times	Re: The cold hardy list And that's just the general "Will Survive the low Temps of this Zone" rating. Blooming, Fruiting and Ripening are totally different things...unfortunately. This yr looks like a "zip" for me and my Mature Dwarf Namwa, FHIA23 and SHIA2340's with no flags yet... Maybe next yr..... Cheers, Pat

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lkstapleton Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 64 BananaBucks : 29,908 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Thanks" 36 Times Was Thanked 62 Times in 28 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 0 Times	Re: The cold hardy list I also see that Thousand Fingers is very cold hardy, according to this list, and I've seen other lists that say the same thing. Has anyone actually fruited one? It looks amazing, with that huge banana stalk hanging down, in all the pictures I've seen. Lisa __________________

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lkstapleton Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 64 BananaBucks : 29,908 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Thanks" 36 Times Was Thanked 62 Times in 28 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 0 Times	Re: The cold hardy list I haven't heard of Carolina Queen, but Ty-Ty nursery and Aaron's nursery have gotten very bad reputations with rare fruit growers. I have heard many reports of dead plants, abusive customer service, and misrepresentations. I'd rather learn from others' mistakes than repeat them, so that's why I said I didn't want to order from them. Lisa __________________

05-28-2010, 08:11 PM	#52 (permalink)
Abnshrek Happy Growing Abnshrek 's Photo Gallery Location: Beaumont Texas Find me on the map! Zone: 8b, but 9b weather.. Name: Migael / Michael Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 9,493 BananaBucks : 213,192 Feedback: 45 / 100% Said "Thanks" 10,447 Times Was Thanked 16,443 Times in 5,238 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 2,318 Times	Re: The cold hardy list I can't believe kru is 12? WTH? __________________ I'm a Nannerhead :^)

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palmtree palmtree 's Photo Gallery Location: New York City Find me on the map! Zone: 7b Name: Alex C Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 1,016 BananaBucks : 106,833 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Thanks" 1,492 Times Was Thanked 1,428 Times in 644 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 103 Times	Re: The cold hardy list I havent cold tested too many plants but super dwarf cavendish stays pretty green down to 30F for me and actually looks okay down to about 28F which is pretty unusual for a banana. Also I think musella is just a generally hardy plant (and also apparently pretty cold hardy too). Mine got chopped down to the ground as a small plant (not sure how it happened) and is now sprouting back from the roots and I found that pretty interesting since it was a weak and almost dieing plant. Thai black is also suppose to be one of the more cold tolerant bananas but I wont be testing that until it makes some pups. Good luck! __________________ Location: New York City, zone 7b

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