Musa California Cold Hardy

browndrake · 07-01-2009, 05:24 PM

what is Musa California Cold Hardy. I have not heard of it/seen it other than here. The wiki has it but says nothing of it. Is it the same as a california gold?

thanks

aaron

chong · 07-01-2009, 05:39 PM

Musa CA Hardy and Musa CA Gold are not the same. The only common thing they share besides being from CA is that both plants are very cold hardy and produce edible fruits. M. CA Hardy is at least a foot taller than CA Gold at maturity.

hammer · 07-01-2009, 09:46 PM

learn something new everyday. i have a question i have a California gold i was wondering this fall should bring in my greenhouse before frost to let it get established should i put it in the ground or should i pot it up. it will be heated well .

harveyc · 07-02-2009, 02:43 AM

I've bought several of the CCH from Shawn (I assume you've seen his latest listing on eBay) since he lives just about 25 miles from me and he's also the brother-in-law of Jeff Earl who popularized the California Gold.

I saw about 7 CCH with bunches of fruit in Shawn's back yard last winter and I also saw a leafless plant with a bunch of bananas when I was at his place about a month ago to buy two more (that plant flowered late last year and lost its leaves from the winter frosts. That plant was about 10 feet tall as were the others I saw with bananas last summer. Jeff Earl's California Gold, on the other hand, fruit around 6 feet tall (though some may be taller). I don't know which is hardier but I think it's probably easier to get a shorter banana to flower in areas with frosty winters. I plan to grow several of each to evaluate further.

If you've got room in your greenhouse, I think it would be wise to bring your California Gold into the greenhouse since you're in zone 7. If it survives outside in zone 7 it would still probably die back to the corm.

Kalabrian · 07-02-2009, 08:07 AM

and we poor guys outside the Usa sit apart... just jokin'

Maybe I've friends comin to California in fall. Could it be the right time to lay my hands on these plants? Who knows...

hammer · 07-02-2009, 11:02 AM

thanks Harvey. i have a musa California gold should i plant in the ground in the greenhouse or in a pot it will stay above 60F this winter.

harveyc · 07-02-2009, 11:30 AM

hammer, see my last paragraph in my post above. yes, I think it would be a good idea to pot it up and bring it indoors in zone 7.

Kalabrian, write me off-list as the time approaches. I'll see if I can help out.

winsorw · 07-13-2009, 08:05 AM

I agree with harveyc on potting it during winter. My Ca Gold didn't survive outside last winter in zone 8 where I live (although we had a severe winter last year).

hammer · 07-13-2009, 12:29 PM

thanks for the info what i want to know would it be okay bring it inside the greenhouse and plant it in the ground in my greenhouse i will be keping it warm all winter.

Richard · 07-22-2009, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by hammer

thanks for the info what i want to know would it be okay bring it inside the greenhouse and plant it in the ground in my greenhouse i will be keping it warm all winter.

If the ground temperature is below 50 F for days while the air temperature in the greenhouse is above 60 F, then the plant will suffer.

hammer · 07-22-2009, 11:17 AM

thanks for the info i will put it in a pot will a 30 gallen pot do .

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