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Max It aint going to get much warmer this week. I don't no what part of the berg your from. I used to work in 15237 on Mcnightmare rd. Would like to no more about growing in this area. Any suggestions would help

tastyratz

was 20 degrees last night, so officially moved it all in.

Here we are nestled in the basement with the big trachy fortunei and the trachycarpus wagnerianus babies. We have the big basjoo with pup, and several lasiocarpa and sikkimensis from sandy. Next year? All in the ground.
This year was easy with everything being potted outside although man are there gnats!

It was getting so cold the stopped growing. Look at the white stem upper right corner... it wasn't there before they went inside!

Think 1 t5 grow light on a timer would do it for these guys next to that casement window?

bikoro child

Hem are you sure that the one with pup is a basjoo?

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tastyratz

I purchased it from texas traders, they seemed pretty legitimate? Here is another photo of it a month ago

What leads you to believe its not a basjoo?

bananarama2

I like the setup Kurt. They'll definitely want more light than the window can provide, but one decent light will probably do in the space you have there. Now you just have to watch to maintain enough moisture and humidity to keep them all chugging along through the winter without encouraging rot and fungus. I'd still give some thought to providing a fan of some sort for air circulation, and besides, it'll pee off the gnats at the same time! I do think you are spoiling them a little bit with the stereo however! Keep us posted on your success with this setup please.

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saltydad

OK, I finally caved in and dug up all my bananas except the basjoos. My back is killing me and I have to go to my brother's store and borrow a dolly. These Ensete glaucas get really damn heavy and big (and mine is about 1/2 the size of Bob's). Some will be potted up, and some (the Ensetes and the dc's) will be stored bare root. I'll post some shots later; I'm still bringing in the smaller ones before dark.





The E. glauca, even after cutting off the leaves, was still over 7 feet of p-stem! It was too heavy for me to lift on my own, so like Bob I used a dolly!

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PAbananas

Quick question. Whren you put them up bare root due they turn brown? Due you have to keep giving them light? Mine are in the cellar and are turning brown. Just curious

Dalmatiansoap

Basjoo is complete green and doesnt have any talk on stem. Take a close pic of leaf petiole for more possitive ID.

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saltydad

Yes, they do turn brown. Mine are in a basement with light; I think it will be better in the darkness, and cooler than my heated basement.

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tastyratz

Your making me nervous that I am wasting time/$ on a plant that will be hardiest lol.
I started a new thread to not clutter this one anymore with off topic posting.

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saltydad

If yours is a basjoo (and someone more expert than me will have to help here- Gabe?), I always leave it out for the winter. I have 2 large clumps now. However, you live in NH, and I hear tell you all get a tad more colder weather than we do here! LOL! So if you do try to overwinter it outdoors, use lots of mulch. I use 2 feet of straw.

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tastyratz

Next year they all go and stay in the ground. I agree basjoo is fine protected.

I had it shipped with a late start and wanted it to become a little more established before I tried overwintering anything. I also wanted to leave the leaves for a head start towards a monster next year.

I plan to overwinter the basjoo sikkemensis and lasiocarpa in the ground next year. I have so many now actually I think I will experiment with similar microclimates and maybe 1 planted a foot deeper than the rest side by side, or maybe different forms of protection.

Bob

I inherited my root cellar with the house and it has a poured floor in the walkway in the middle and dirt on the sides. I would have prefered to stand them all up but didn't have room. I learned this from a site I couldn't read in German from some guy who was one of my early cold weather growing "idols". I gathered from looking at the pics of his plants over the years that the Ensete's in particular tended to rot when layed down. Frank who started this thread years ago has had great success just laying bananas down in a crawl space so I'm not sure if they're as prone to rot as the Ensetes. Yes they do tend to desicate some over winter but I wonder if wrapping the roots in a damp towel may help? I'm really not sure and I've only been doing this for about 2 years now so am still learning and never afraid to experiment. I've been pleasantly surprised at being successful with things I've been told or read couldn't be done.
Here's a link from this year to that site I mentioned in German but well worth looking over every picture to get what you can out of it. It has the past years photos too that I mentioned.

Bananen, Anregungen u. Tips.

Howard I love the huge bases on the Ensete's and now know why our old pal Tog was the Ensete Nut. I bet yours flowers next year.

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Im gonna try to store a basjoo, Ensete ventricosum 'Maurelii' and a Ensete ventricosum. My basement stays around 60 to 65 is that to warm?

willy1der

I overwinter my maurelii at around 65 last year,it did much better than those I have in my cold room at around 40.The past 2 winters Ive taken my ventricosum to a green house for the winter and this year its just too big to fit in my veichle so its going dormant with the others!!!

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saltydad

Nate, my naners stay in the same room as my furnace, so you know they're warm, and while a few didn't make it bare root from last year, most did fine. The victims? M. ornata bronze and purple, Saba, and a Burmese Blue.

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Jack Daw

I discarded the free root ball storing. It works only for almost mature plants and I can't seem to find the threshold. So unless they reach 2m, they will be potted in a quasi pot. It's the best and safest bet.

After losing almost half my army, I don't wanna risk the dead plants again.

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bananarama2

This is a variation on existing posts, with similar values. However, I would make a note that most of the barrels of this type are used to store toxic chemicals (if not to humans, then your bananas), so be certain they are thoroughly and carefully washed out. Secondly, without some sort of mulch to protect the soft tissues of the banana from freezing, this is not much more than building a different refrigerator for the bananas. Without mulch to surround the p-stem, this would only be effective in areas without significant freezing temperature days. My two-bits....

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Blake09

The barrels are thoroughly washed out, then they sat open for a month, then I wahd them out again before I put the bananas in. The barrels are packed with straw on the inside too, so I think that ime good.




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