ensete maurelii red-creating pups - Page 3

Extreme Bananas · 03-11-2009, 07:21 PM

Has anyone tried using BAP (Benzylaminopurine) on Ensete Maurelii to stimulate the production of offsets? This chemical is used in the hosta and daylily trade to increase production of plants. I plan on getting some BAP and trying it to see how it works on Maurelii. Since the main stem does not need to be severed at the base, it may produce offsets more quickly. Or it could slow down the process. In either case, it will be less painful to the plant, lol.

Ed

jack hagenaars · 04-04-2009, 11:37 PM

Yes my agave did survive the snow...its not the cold that gets them its the wetness combined with cold temperatures that kills the growing spear...but I have a clear roof over the cactus bed to keep most of the rain off....it pups like mad...I probably get about 30 pups every year....This was one of the coldest winters we have had in years....it does have some frost damage in spots..but as it warms up I will take the older leaves off...I'll post some pics once it warms up....cheers Jack

jack hagenaars · 04-04-2009, 11:42 PM

Ajnyone have any culture info on ensete maurelii...Mine has started to grow new leaves already and will be going outside soon...I took down a 60 foot birch tree and have a big sunny hole to fill...hoping to put some musa bajoo and get the ensete out there to fill the space...would like to get the ensete as big as possible to block my neighbors back door......

sandy0225 · 04-07-2009, 02:29 PM

Here's my update. I saw that they had roots on them, but they hadn't rooted through the corm yet. I separated them carefully with a knife and put them in 4" pots. This picture was taken part way through the separation process.

I came up with 18 pups separated, some will need dividing again later because it looked like two stems were coming from one root mass. Not counting the one I kind of killed with the knife.
Not a quick way to propagate by any means, but seems to be effective if you have some time and patience.

http://www.bananas.org/gallery/water...e=16510&size=1
The weird part was that there were still little tiny ones sprouting in the center of the corm, so I left them to see if this thing will regrow and get more pups. The remaining corm was still very crispy and crunchy and fresh.

Tog Tan · 04-07-2009, 02:32 PM

Wow Sandy! I got so thrilled when I saw the pix before this post. Congrats! I am really fascinated that they have grown so fast since the last post by you. Keep us updated. Thanks again!

Bananaman88 · 04-07-2009, 02:33 PM

Nice! Looks like that little experiment went very well for you. Thanks for the update.

sandy0225 · 04-07-2009, 02:36 PM

I actually thought there would be more than 18, but not bad for a first try. I bet if you started with a bigger/older plant than one year, then it would be more pups. I don't know why my camera makes them look so yellow. They're not yellowish at all. I need to work on my photography skills which are non-existent!

Bob · 04-07-2009, 03:22 PM

Pretty cool for something that's not supposed to be possible.

harveyc · 04-07-2009, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Tog Tan

Wow Sandy! I got so thrilled when I saw the pix before this post.

Me too! I kept checking to see if you posted, glad to see it worked out well!

Harvey

john_ny · 04-07-2009, 04:05 PM

That third picture is really great. Congrats.

austinl01 · 04-07-2009, 06:57 PM

That is totally awesome! I can't believe it turned into that many pups!!!

Java16 · 04-07-2009, 09:23 PM

This is amazing! Does anyone know if this method will work for other ensete species or maybe even musa?

alpha010 · 04-08-2009, 06:15 AM

Well, we know what's going be in the Northern Tropics greenhouses this next year ;oD Good job Sandy, very glad you took that leap and helped us learn a few things! Feel free to nudge me if you get more pups than you can handle...

Shaggy

Chironex · 04-17-2009, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Extreme Bananas

Has anyone tried using BAP (Benzylaminopurine) on Ensete Maurelii to stimulate the production of offsets? This chemical is used in the hosta and daylily trade to increase production of plants. I plan on getting some BAP and trying it to see how it works on Maurelii. Since the main stem does not need to be severed at the base, it may produce offsets more quickly. Or it could slow down the process. In either case, it will be less painful to the plant, lol.

Ed

Hi Ed,
I have BAP but have not tried it on any Ensetes. Ensetes do not typically pup like Musa. But if you have information that the use of BAP may cause this to occur, I would sure like to read it!
How much BAP are you looking for? I have quite a few bottles of it. A little goes a loooooooong way.

sirmoebly · 04-19-2009, 11:10 PM

I've noticed some people has these plants with short & stocky pstems & some are long. Why is that? It seems the shorter (stocky) ones is from cold storage or I should say colder areas mabe? Just taking a guess.

Extreme Bananas · 04-20-2009, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Chironex

Hi Ed,
I have BAP but have not tried it on any Ensetes. Ensetes do not typically pup like Musa. But if you have information that the use of BAP may cause this to occur, I would sure like to read it!
How much BAP are you looking for? I have quite a few bottles of it. A little goes a loooooooong way.

Hi Scot. I do not have any information on BAP use on Ensetes or Musa. I was planning on ordering a 2-oz container (makes 1/2 gallon) for $30 plus $5 postage to try. I would rather buy 2 ounces from you, or whatever bottle size you have, than from the other guy. I got some Z. 'Lime Zinger's from him years ago, and they were tiiiiiinnnnnnnnnny and didn't do too well.

Ed

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Chironex · 04-20-2009, 08:20 PM

Ed, Send me a PM and I will hook you up. When you make BAP solution, it really should be only what you need. Keep the vial in the refrigerator and only make what you will use. (you do not need much)

bjorkid · 04-26-2009, 09:55 AM

That is so cool! I recently got a "double mahoi" that had died back to the ground but put out a bazillion pups... I cut most of them out to make just a few of them stronger, but now i wonder if I sould have just let them grow out too. Its still pushing out new pups though, so I'm sure I'll have the chance.

Dalmatiansoap · 03-04-2010, 06:39 AM

BUMP!

Hey sandy,
Can we get some updates on this one?

sandy0225 · 03-04-2010, 08:29 PM

I don't have anything to update. I cut it up, potted them up separate and sold them. They did just fine, all 18 of them. I sold a few of them to bananas.org members I think.

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sandy0225 Northern Tropics sandy0225's Photo Gallery Location: Muncie, Indiana zone 5 Find me on the map! Zone: zone 5 Name: Sandy Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,718 BananaBucks : 364,073 Feedback: 31 / 97% Said "Thanks" 38 Times Was Thanked 1,801 Times in 682 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 9 Times	Re: ensete maurelii red-creating pups Here's my update. I saw that they had roots on them, but they hadn't rooted through the corm yet. I separated them carefully with a knife and put them in 4" pots. This picture was taken part way through the separation process. I came up with 18 pups separated, some will need dividing again later because it looked like two stems were coming from one root mass. Not counting the one I kind of killed with the knife. Not a quick way to propagate by any means, but seems to be effective if you have some time and patience. http://www.bananas.org/gallery/water...e=16510&size=1 The weird part was that there were still little tiny ones sprouting in the center of the corm, so I left them to see if this thing will regrow and get more pups. The remaining corm was still very crispy and crunchy and fresh. __________________ Sandy Burrell Northern Tropics Greenhouse 1501 East Fuson Road Muncie, IN 47302 www.northerntropics.com specializing in bananas, heirloom tomatoes and water gardening plants~ check out our new online store at our website!

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sandy0225 Northern Tropics sandy0225's Photo Gallery Location: Muncie, Indiana zone 5 Find me on the map! Zone: zone 5 Name: Sandy Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,718 BananaBucks : 364,073 Feedback: 31 / 97% Said "Thanks" 38 Times Was Thanked 1,801 Times in 682 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 9 Times	Re: ensete maurelii red-creating pups I don't have anything to update. I cut it up, potted them up separate and sold them. They did just fine, all 18 of them. I sold a few of them to bananas.org members I think. __________________ Sandy Burrell Northern Tropics Greenhouse 1501 East Fuson Road Muncie, IN 47302 www.northerntropics.com specializing in bananas, heirloom tomatoes and water gardening plants~ check out our new online store at our website!

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