Tropicallvr

While brousing the web for M.flaviflora info I found a German page which states that the two are almost identical. Then on Trebrowns new web site it they are selling M.flaviflora, but calling it thompson's banana.
http://translate.google.com/translat...ial_s%26sa%3DG

Gabe15

They are definetly 2 different plants. If I remember I can ask Markku tommarow, I am here with him at the CRFG Festival of Fruit in San Luis Obispo. But still I am certain they are very different plants, sometimes these seed companies are not the best source of information.

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Tropicallvr

Thanks Gabe!

mrbungalow

So what do you think Phil is selling at Trebrown? He seems to know his stuff, but he has told me that his number 1 passion is palms, not bananas.

I just ordered some Musa Flaviflora from him. My guess is regular Thomsoni.

Beware when buying Musa Nagensium too, as there are many versions out there on the market. I ordered from 2 different seed companies, and got 2 very different seeds.

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Gabe15

True Musa nagensium has white seeds. Musa flaviflora is not well known and is not found in the wild anymore, or if it is, it is very rare. Also, I dont know if it matters, but Musa thomsonii has no "P", its just M. thomsonii. In some of the literature it is equated with a "Musa thomsoni" (King 1929), but these 2 plants are intirely different. It is also possible that the M. flaviflora being sold is some Rhodochlamys x Eumusa cross plant.

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mrbungalow

Well, I ordered Musa NagensiumX from Trebrown. They were very worty in texture, and a little bigger than sikkimensis seeds. These are powerful seeds, as the first have sprouted after only 2 weeks!! I am guessing there is a fair deal of cheesmani blood in this one.

I ordered some Musa Nagensium from Seedman, and these were totally smooth and light brown in colour. And they were almost the size of ensete seeds, a little smaller. (Not white....) I have no idea what this really is...

Gabe, do you know of any other good seed sources?

I am still waiting for the flaviflora to appear, but I ordered only a few days ago so it will take a while longer.

So this winter I will be stuck with ALOT of seedlings for next season. I am hoping my new high power natrium bulbs will do the job...

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MediaHound

Seed source thread
Seed Sources

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mrbungalow

So what is musa flaviflora? I got some seeds, and have no Idea what to expect....!

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Gabe15

You will have to grow them and find out!

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mrbungalow

There are some pictures of what I believe to be "Musa Flaviflora" in the banana-ID-department.

Erlend

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Mark Hall

Hi can you guys explain to me the procedures that you use to germinate banana seeds . Do you file them and then soak or vice versa. what temps,

I have just potted up Nagensium, Cheesmanii, Monkey fingers, and one called yellow forest banana.

Many thanks Mark

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mrbungalow

Soaking, yes. Filing, no. Here's an earlier thread where I posted pictures and procedure that allways works for me. Lots of good info. from other users as well. What seeds have germinated for you?

Erlend

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Gabe15

I found what I think is the link between the mixup of these 2 species names. At one point Musa flaviflora had the Musa x paradisiaca var. thomsonii. However Musa flaviflora and Musa thomsonii are still different species, the former being rather poorly known today.

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Mark Hall

Thanks Erland that thread was very informative. What sort of heat doe's the mat give off? I have just got a few seeds from phil at trebrown where do you shop as a lot of the seeds you guys are growing are not usually seen over here in the uk.

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