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Old 09-18-2009, 11:23 PM   #41 (permalink)
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Considering I don't have one at all, I do think it is a good size.. I've seen others not to long ago as starter plants maybe 6 inches tall and they are close to that price.. Don't you think this plant looks healthy vs. a tiny starter plant? At any rate, I couldn't afford it anyway with the house rebuild, so unless someone gives me one, I won't have one in the near future.
I would think for the asking price it would be at least 3 feet tall with a football size corm.
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I'm curious... What size would your plants be if you were to sell them for $40 next year?
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I'm curious... What size would your plants be if you were to sell them for $40 next year?
At least a baseball-size corm with a 3-inch diameter p-stem at the base and 30-inches of p-stem height.

And yes, I sell plants for a living too.
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I'd be interested it that if the price was right.. Please keep me posted when you have some ready next season..
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I'd be interested it that if the price was right.. Please keep me posted when you have some ready next season..
I'll post some sort of availability list when I start offering plants from my web site next year.
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All you people in Florida should get on the waiting list here: My Ae Ae's Brother What a super thing. God Bless this person.

I think the price is pretty much determined by whatever someone is willing to pay for it. That's free enterprise, but it doesn't mean that everyone has to pay that price. There are good deals popping up all over the place. My friend found one at a nursery last year for under $50. It was huge in a five-gallon container, and he planted it in the ground, but it died over the winter. Some people here on this forum got some for under $50 at a local nursery last month. The going price locally seems to be $50 even if EBay doesn't reflect that. They are about that same price or cheaper in Florida, and they are even cheaper in Hawaii.

A couple of years ago, people were paying huge amounts for a purple-flowered plumeria. I sent one to a friend a couple of years ago who sold it on EBay for over $400. I just sold one this year for $35. The U.S. market was flooded with them really quickly as people bought and imported them from Thailand, which is the plumeria capital of the world right now. I believe as the supply goes up, the price will come down.
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Richard, I would buy from you also. Please keep me in mind when you're ready to sell.
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$40 is a great price wish I could of paid that small amount for the ones I got. I was thinking of charging more in the range of $75 a plant. I guess I will just tell me kids to stick to e-bay instead of trying to compete with guys like Richard.

They are about ready to start selling their mint plants on e-bay here soon as well...
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The basic story is that if you work with a wholesale nursery in Hawaii or similar, the Ae Ae's are shipped 120 to 190 per pallet depending on the source. The shipping works out to $1 or $2 per plant. If the source nursery has a standard U.S. nursery stock certificate and the shipping destination is in the U.S., then there is no need to pay for a phyto-certificate. The wholesale cost of the plants is currently under $20 each. It would be easy to flood the market with inexpensive Ae Ae's, and anyone here who sells plants is welcome to give it a try. The odds are better than blackjack.
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Is a Musa 'Florida Variegate' a cheeper verson of the Ae Ae?

Or would it be worth more because of the red edges??
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I have a friend that operates a nursery near Hilo who once said he could get Ae Ae easy for $10 but another friend in Kona that said they get snatched up quickly when offered for $50 and that they were scarce. The Hilo friend later said that our Mainland crazy had apparently dried up supplies and he doesn't see any around now. When Andrew when to Hawaii earlier this year he didn't find any at the nurseries he visited. Richard, have you actually confirmed that a wholesale source has the sort of quantities of Ae Ae that you are mentioning? It just doesn't agree with what others have told me. I'd love to get a few more at a cheap price to feel more comfortable about leaving my big Ae Ae outdoors this winter unprotected (it's over 20' tall now to leaf tips).
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I have a friend that operates a nursery near Hilo who once said he could get Ae Ae easy for $10 but another friend in Kona that said they get snatched up quickly when offered for $50 and that they were scarce. The Hilo friend later said that our Mainland crazy had apparently dried up supplies and he doesn't see any around now. When Andrew when to Hawaii earlier this year he didn't find any at the nurseries he visited. Richard, have you actually confirmed that a wholesale source has the sort of quantities of Ae Ae that you are mentioning? It just doesn't agree with what others have told me. I'd love to get a few more at a cheap price to feel more comfortable about leaving my big Ae Ae outdoors this winter unprotected (it's over 20' tall now to leaf tips).
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Richard, how would you feel about buying a pallet wholesale and then selling to all of us, making a nice profit for yourself, of course, for your time and trouble. I am positive that you would sell them all. There are a whole bunch of folks over at Dave's Garden that would buy them if the price was reduced. I could help with shipping, distribution, whatever. I could even buy them up front and then re-sell, but I don't have a nursery license. Let me know if this interests you...
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I have seen many posts over the years predicting a precipitous drop in Ae Ae prices, personally I do not see this happening anytime soon. Some of the posts compare Ae Ae’s to Musella Lasiocarpa or Basjoo. This plant is different than Basjoo, Siam Ruby or Musella lasiocarpa, all of which have sold for very high price at one time or another, in that it has maintained this rarity and been priced very high (in relation to other bananas at the time) for over 25 years (to my recollection...most likely longer as this is when it first appeared on my radar).

Some posts have stated that there are groves of these bananas in Hawaii and that they are available for $10.

I have been to many of the large public gardens and many smaller gardens in Hawaii and the only garden I saw Ae Ae’s at was Waimea Falls on the North Shore of Hawaii and they were in a secured area behind a fence.

Where in Hawaii are there groves of this plant?

If I ever see a grove of Ae Ae's I am taking a picture so fast...

What nursery sells them for $10??

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This banana is rare even in Hawaii.

This is evidenced by the fact that someone broke in to the Maui Nui Botanical Garden and stole some of them:

Rare Hawaiian banana plants stolen from garden
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POSTED: September 13, 2006

KAHULUI – After losing about $1,000 in landscaping tools and supplies during break-ins over the Labor Day weekend, Maui Nui Botanical Gardens was hoping Tuesday to get back a half-dozen rare native Hawaiian banana plants.

The keiki plants of the manini variety, which has green-and-white striped leaves and fruit, were dug up from the garden at Keopuolani Park during the first break-in on Sept. 4, said Executive Director Lisa Schattenburg-Raymond.

After spreading the word about the thefts, she said she learned Tuesday that someone had sold similar plants to a local business. She spoke with a Maui police officer who planned to investigate further and recover the plants Tuesday afternoon.

“They are just so ornamental. People just go crazy over it,” Schattenburg-Raymond said. “They are the Hawaiian variety, which makes it even more interesting. It was reserved for alii.

The garden had offered limited quantities of the banana plants for sale for the past three years, Schattenburg-Raymond said. She estimated the thefts had set back the sale production for two years.

The plants are difficult to grow, with some plants not surviving and others turning albino or all green, she said.

“What we’re trying to do is preserve these rare Hawaiian plants,” she said. “Even though we’re trying to make these available, people are stealing them.”

Because the rare and valuable banana variety was targeted, along with hand tools and pesticides, Schattenburg-Raymond said she suspects the thief was someone familiar with the garden and involved in the landscaping industry.

Also taken during the first break-in were five 70-pound bales of Sunshine No. 4 potting mix, some large pots and a large container of Roundup herbicide.

The following night, thieves broke through the doors of the garden pesticide shed and the tool shed, damaging the security gates, and stealing herbicide and pesticides, a drill, a new LL Bean camouflage wind-up radio and a wagon. An alarm at the gardens went off at 3 a.m.

Some of the stolen items were found in the wagon in bushes near Keopuolani Park and the Maui Arts & Cultural Center the next day, Schattenburg-Raymond said.

She said she has heard about other thefts of plants taken from homeowners as well as businesses.

Anyone with information on the break-ins and thefts is asked to call Maui Nui Botanical Gardens at 249-2798 or Maui police at 244-6400.

Lila Fujimoto can be reached at lfujimoto@mauinews.com.

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The nurseries that grow these bananas know the value.

I have contacted several Hawaiian nurseries that advertise them ($125 to $175 over the last 20 years and they rarely if ever have stock and when they put me on the wait list I never heard from them again. In 1994 I purchase an Ae Ae ($150 or so..can’t quite recall) from Pacific Tree Farm just outside of San Diego (it met a dire end from my dog). In 1995 I purchased an Ae Ae from Gong Bananas ($150 or so can’t quite recall). At the time they had a nice planting in a raised bed; they have since removed the Ae Ae from their catalog and reduced their planting to one large matte. In speaking with Don Chafin he has said that they are just too difficult to grow and that many of the pups turned green. Don actually gave me a green Ae Ae that I potted up and amazingly it went variegated. In 1998 I made a trip to San Diego and visited the only two nurseries that I knew of that currently or had stocked Ae Ae, Pacific Tree Farm and Exotica. All of the Pacific Tree Farm’s bananas were in pots, they had just one Ae Ae matte growing in a single pot. The person I spoke with said that they did better in the pots due to the poor drainage of the soil where the nursery was located (California clay). Exotica did not have any Ae Ae’s. Yes I know this was a loooonnng time ago and there are other Southern California nurseries that offer them (kudos to Andrew for his awesome fund!); they are just not commonly for sale at nurseries (California, Hawaii or Florida).

Going Bananas Ae Ae matte (April 2008).

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Going Bananas Raised Ae Ae bed (Fall 1994)
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Going Bananas Homestead, FL Fall 1994
Going Bananas had a raised bed with Ae Ae's. They actually still had them in their catalog with a manageable wait list (about a tenth of the size of today's Viente Cohol list). Each pup was labeled with nursery tape with the future owner's name on it.
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Ironically all of the Ae Ae’s I have purchased (three) died. I have had the most success with the two that were given to me. The green one Don gave me eventually died (it made it through several generations over six years the last plant had bananas and no pups). The one I am currently growing I need to return a pup (or two/three) to the member that passed it on to me and hopefully one day participate in the expansion of the plant within board membership.

I hope the board members’ successes continue (come on Richard and JNS!!) and that every board member that wants to grow one has the opportunity to. I just do not see this banana becoming readily available in large quantities (at any price) anytime soon.

Thanks to all the great tips (Richard, Nanaman, JNS and others) that I have recently read on the board I am hoping to improve my plants and expand the planting of this great plant.

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Just look it up on Snopes... The Ae Ae $10 myth. lol
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Richard, how would you feel about buying a pallet wholesale and then selling to all of us ...
I am currently in the process of buying trays and pallets of wholesale plants and other products to sell next spring. My thought is that bananas and perhaps other plants will be sold at a discount to bananas.org members. When I have that working (months away) I'll post something about it on bananas.org. From the business point of view, note that Ae Ae's are a good product but pale in comparison to several other fruits -- for example, a high-quality low-chill Persimmon tree.

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If you are an established distributor of nursery stock and have solid account references with wholesalers, you can talk directly firms that buy and sell plants as commodities. From there, the view is quite different.
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Richard that was a joke... no need for a rebuttal. lol
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I have seen many posts over the years predicting a precipitous drop in Ae Ae prices, personally I do not see this happening anytime soon. Some of the posts compare Ae Ae’s to Musella Lasiocarpa or Basjoo. This plant is different than Basjoo, Siam Ruby or Musella lasiocarpa, all of which have sold for very high price at one time or another, in that it has maintained this rarity and been priced very high (in relation to other bananas at the time) for over 25 years (to my recollection...most likely longer as this is when it first appeared on my radar).

Some posts have stated that there are groves of these bananas in Hawaii and that they are available for $10.

I have been to many of the large public gardens and many smaller gardens in Hawaii and the only garden I saw Ae Ae’s at was Waimea Falls on the North Shore of Hawaii and they were in a secured area behind a fence.

Where in Hawaii are there groves of this plant?

If I ever see a grove of Ae Ae's I am taking a picture so fast...

What nursery sells them for $10??

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ae ae banana arrived

This banana is rare even in Hawaii.

This is evidenced by the fact that someone broke in to the Maui Nui Botanical Garden and stole some of them:

Rare Hawaiian banana plants stolen from garden
By LILA FUJIMOTO, Staff Writer
POSTED: September 13, 2006

KAHULUI – After losing about $1,000 in landscaping tools and supplies during break-ins over the Labor Day weekend, Maui Nui Botanical Gardens was hoping Tuesday to get back a half-dozen rare native Hawaiian banana plants.

The keiki plants of the manini variety, which has green-and-white striped leaves and fruit, were dug up from the garden at Keopuolani Park during the first break-in on Sept. 4, said Executive Director Lisa Schattenburg-Raymond.

After spreading the word about the thefts, she said she learned Tuesday that someone had sold similar plants to a local business. She spoke with a Maui police officer who planned to investigate further and recover the plants Tuesday afternoon.

“They are just so ornamental. People just go crazy over it,” Schattenburg-Raymond said. “They are the Hawaiian variety, which makes it even more interesting. It was reserved for alii.

The garden had offered limited quantities of the banana plants for sale for the past three years, Schattenburg-Raymond said. She estimated the thefts had set back the sale production for two years.

The plants are difficult to grow, with some plants not surviving and others turning albino or all green, she said.

“What we’re trying to do is preserve these rare Hawaiian plants,” she said. “Even though we’re trying to make these available, people are stealing them.”

Because the rare and valuable banana variety was targeted, along with hand tools and pesticides, Schattenburg-Raymond said she suspects the thief was someone familiar with the garden and involved in the landscaping industry.

Also taken during the first break-in were five 70-pound bales of Sunshine No. 4 potting mix, some large pots and a large container of Roundup herbicide.

The following night, thieves broke through the doors of the garden pesticide shed and the tool shed, damaging the security gates, and stealing herbicide and pesticides, a drill, a new LL Bean camouflage wind-up radio and a wagon. An alarm at the gardens went off at 3 a.m.

Some of the stolen items were found in the wagon in bushes near Keopuolani Park and the Maui Arts & Cultural Center the next day, Schattenburg-Raymond said.

She said she has heard about other thefts of plants taken from homeowners as well as businesses.

Anyone with information on the break-ins and thefts is asked to call Maui Nui Botanical Gardens at 249-2798 or Maui police at 244-6400.

Lila Fujimoto can be reached at lfujimoto@mauinews.com.

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The nurseries that grow these bananas know the value.

I have contacted several Hawaiian nurseries that advertise them ($125 to $175 over the last 20 years and they rarely if ever have stock and when they put me on the wait list I never heard from them again. In 1994 I purchase an Ae Ae ($150 or so..can’t quite recall) from Pacific Tree Farm just outside of San Diego (it met a dire end from my dog). In 1995 I purchased an Ae Ae from Gong Bananas ($150 or so can’t quite recall). At the time they had a nice planting in a raised bed; they have since removed the Ae Ae from their catalog and reduced their planting to one large matte. In speaking with Don Chafin he has said that they are just too difficult to grow and that many of the pups turned green. Don actually gave me a green Ae Ae that I potted up and amazingly it went variegated. In 1998 I made a trip to San Diego and visited the only two nurseries that I knew of that currently or had stocked Ae Ae, Pacific Tree Farm and Exotica. All of the Pacific Tree Farm’s bananas were in pots, they had just one Ae Ae matte growing in a single pot. The person I spoke with said that they did better in the pots due to the poor drainage of the soil where the nursery was located (California clay). Exotica did not have any Ae Ae’s. Yes I know this was a loooonnng time ago and there are other Southern California nurseries that offer them (kudos to Andrew for his awesome fund!); they are just not commonly for sale at nurseries (California, Hawaii or Florida).

Going Bananas Ae Ae matte (Picture from April 2008).

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Ironically all of the Ae Ae’s I have purchased (three) died. I have had the most success with the two that were given to me. The green one Don gave me eventually died (it made it through several generations over six years the last plant had bananas and no pups). The one I am currently growing I need to return a pup (or two/three) to the member that passed it on to me and hopefully one day participate in the expansion of the plant within board membership.

I hope the board members’ successes continue (come on Richard and JNS!!) and that every board member that wants to grow one has the opportunity to. I just do not see this banana becoming readily available in large quantities (at any price) anytime soon.

Thanks to all the great tips (Richard, Nanaman, JNS and others) that I have recently read on the board I am hoping to improve my plants and expand the planting of this great plant.
WOW thanks for all that info!!

lol, If I could get one Id try em...

Add CV on the list for getting a pup from her in a couple of years...
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