A'ea'e Breeding Program

PR-Giants · 10-22-2022, 02:33 PM

The A'ea'e is a very female fertile cultivated variety that will easily produce viable seeds when pollinated.

I'll be sharing offshoots of some of these new non-variegated varieties produced from using the A'ea'e as the female.

The new variegated varieties produced will be released at a later date.

These new non-variegated banana varieties will probably have little value and I'll be shipping them before I flower their mother so there won't be much information available.

This is the first one that will be made available this Spring.

A'ea'e 'AAB' x variegated wild Golden Tiger 'AA'

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Originally Posted by PR-Giants

I was averaging over 3,000 new varieties each week from just the blue java which was much more than I wanted to plant so I decided to share the seeds rather than discard them.

This is a new synthetic hybrid I planted today, Sept 1, 22.

PR-Giants · 10-29-2022, 01:35 PM

This little a'ea'e will be ready to hand pollinate in about 8 months.

Breeding with short cycle bananas like the a'ea'e will hopefully produce new varieties that are semi cold hardy with even shorter cycle times. My main interest is still in producing new variegated varieties but I will be growing out a higher percentage of the non-variegated seedlings.

Mark Dragt · 10-30-2022, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by PR-Giants

This little a'ea'e will be ready to hand pollinate in about 8 months.

Breeding with short cycle bananas like the a'ea'e will hopefully produce new varieties that are semi cold hardy with even shorter cycle times. My main interest is still in producing new variegated varieties but I will be growing out a higher percentage of the non-variegated seedlings.

Great pictures! Thanks for everything!

PR-Giants · 11-18-2022, 03:14 PM

Pseudostem 20"

Very short petioles

Nov 17, 22

PR-Giants · 11-18-2022, 04:46 PM

I recently found this variegated banana seedling growing wild. It's probably a Golden Tiger, there are thousands of these weeds growing all over the farm.

blownz281 · 11-18-2022, 09:44 PM

That’s cool looking… pretty neat to find bananas growing freely like that.

PR-Giants · 11-19-2022, 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by blownz281

That’s cool looking… pretty neat to find bananas growing freely like that.

Initially it was pretty cool but these invasive variegated weeds from the other side of the world quickly became problematic.

When I wrote "thousands" I intentionally underestimated their numbers by many zeros.

It only took a few seconds of searching this morning to find the bananas in these 2 photos and there was one that I will collect and pot up later. There's probably over 50 banana seedlings in the wide angle shot and if you click on the photo it will enlarge.

blownz281 · 11-19-2022, 08:52 AM

Wow now I see them. I have never heard of this variety before and how did they end up on your property? Do you have pictures of any mature ones and flower/fruit? Thanks.

PR-Giants · 11-19-2022, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by blownz281

Wow now I see them. I have never heard of this variety before and how did they end up on your property? Do you have pictures of any mature ones and flower/fruit? Thanks.

Probably from birds or bats and the original plant I collected wasn't even variegated.

blownz281 · 11-19-2022, 10:38 AM

That thing is awesome!! Now is this a nature hybrid or man made?

all43 · 11-19-2022, 03:27 PM

That is beautiful!

PR-Giants · 11-20-2022, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by blownz281

That thing is awesome!! Now is this a nature hybrid or man made?

The only difference between a natural hybrid and a 'synthetic or man-made' hybrid is how the pollen was applied.

If the seed was produced from a wild mother plant the seedling would need to be grown and exhibit significant differences from the mother to determine if it's a new variety or a subspecies.

If the mother plant was a cultivar then the seedling is automatically a new variety without needing it to be grown for proof.

PR-Giants · 11-26-2022, 07:18 AM

I cleaned that spot up a little better and there's a lot more than 50 seedlings.

Some people find it difficult to get these seeds to germinate while others find it incredibly easy.

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Originally Posted by PR-Giants

Initially it was pretty cool but these invasive variegated weeds from the other side of the world quickly became problematic.

When I wrote "thousands" I intentionally underestimated their numbers by many zeros.

It only took a few seconds of searching this morning to find the bananas in these 2 photos and there was one that I will collect and pot up later. There's probably over 50 banana seedlings in the wide angle shot and if you click on the photo it will enlarge.

blownz281 · 11-26-2022, 08:00 AM

Man that is so cool and there is a ton of them growing there. I would be worried about stepping on them or mowing them down. You should pick an area and let a bunch grow up and fruit! It would be newt keep us updated with how long it takes them to put size on just for fun. If you ever plan to send out some seedlings please let me know.

Makes sense on natural hybrid and man made.

PR-Giants · 11-26-2022, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by blownz281

there is a ton of them growing there.

A plant with a bunch probably blew over during the last hurricane and that's the results. The seeds were just laying on the surface and most of them sprouted after I cleaned the area up which might have to do with the direct sunlight they received.

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If you ever plan to send out some seedlings please let me know.

It's much easier for me to ship the seeds rather than the seedlings.

blownz281 · 11-26-2022, 01:48 PM

Or like you said animals spread the seeds around. Never grew bananas from seeds before. But have grown some tissue culture bananas and blackberries.

Send me a pm and let me know about the seeds. Thanks.

PR-Giants · 12-03-2022, 07:07 AM

First pup is a water sucker.

Nov 30, 22

blownz281 · 12-03-2022, 08:23 AM

Well that’s some good news!

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blownz281 Location: Coastal NC Find me on the map! Zone: 8b coastal Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 1,373 BananaBucks : 358,971 Feedback: 6 / 100% Said "Thanks" 440 Times Was Thanked 756 Times in 534 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 14 Times	Re: A'ea'e Breeding Program That thing is awesome!! Now is this a nature hybrid or man made?

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blownz281 Location: Coastal NC Find me on the map! Zone: 8b coastal Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 1,373 BananaBucks : 358,971 Feedback: 6 / 100% Said "Thanks" 440 Times Was Thanked 756 Times in 534 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 14 Times	Re: A'ea'e Breeding Program Man that is so cool and there is a ton of them growing there. I would be worried about stepping on them or mowing them down. You should pick an area and let a bunch grow up and fruit! It would be newt keep us updated with how long it takes them to put size on just for fun. If you ever plan to send out some seedlings please let me know. Makes sense on natural hybrid and man made.

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blownz281 Location: Coastal NC Find me on the map! Zone: 8b coastal Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 1,373 BananaBucks : 358,971 Feedback: 6 / 100% Said "Thanks" 440 Times Was Thanked 756 Times in 534 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 14 Times	Re: A'ea'e Breeding Program Or like you said animals spread the seeds around. Never grew bananas from seeds before. But have grown some tissue culture bananas and blackberries. Send me a pm and let me know about the seeds. Thanks.

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blownz281 Location: Coastal NC Find me on the map! Zone: 8b coastal Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 1,373 BananaBucks : 358,971 Feedback: 6 / 100% Said "Thanks" 440 Times Was Thanked 756 Times in 534 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 14 Times	Re: A'ea'e Breeding Program Well that’s some good news!

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