In the beginning, the plant site was empty - Page 4

Richard · 09-06-2009, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Want Them All

How far is that brick wall from the wooden fence? Doesn't look like there's a lot of room for the roots of the banana plants. Will the roots go over to your neighbor's yard?

So far we have only completed the "left" half of the wall. In the picture, you can see bricks extending to the right. A parallel wall will be constructed on that side so that the completed bed is 3 feet wide and 40 feet long.

ShearMe · 09-06-2009, 09:10 AM

Lookin' good!

NANAMAN · 09-06-2009, 09:12 AM

Cool, can't wait to see the finished product full of growing plants!

Want Them All · 09-06-2009, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Richard

So far we have only completed the "left" half of the wall. In the picture, you can see bricks extending to the right. A parallel wall will be constructed on that side so that the completed bed is 3 feet wide and 40 feet long.

Duh, it was late at night when I asked the question. Of course you'll plant the bananas on the right side of the brick wall in the photo. For some reason I thought you were gonna put the plants between the brick wall and the wooden fence, where the sprinkler heads are! Must be sunburn-induced, spent the whole day at La Jolla Shores.

Richard · 09-10-2009, 07:23 PM

Tony came by this morning and we finished attaching the remaining screen to the plant shelter, and then Tony dug a shallow trench for the other half of the retaining wall. I tell you, don't get between Tony and a pick! He is the trench master!!

Richard · 09-18-2009, 05:19 PM

Sooner or later the extra rock and dirt piles get too large. Yesterday Tony came over and got me started moving the excess from the rear of my property to a drop-off hauler in the front ...

A few loads a day and I should be done by ... November

Want Them All · 09-18-2009, 10:39 PM

Richard,
Just in front of that red wheelbarrow, I see you have a "room" with screen and steel pipes.

[1] How is that assembled?
[2] How far is it from the house?
[3] Can 2 persons get the job done?
[4] How large is it?
[5] What do you use it for? I assume strictly storage, and not a greenhouse?

Sorry for many questions, but that looks like what I was thinking of doing.

Thanks,

Richard · 09-18-2009, 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Want Them All

Richard,
Just in front of that red wheelbarrow, I see you have a "room" with screen and steel pipes.

[1] How is that assembled?
[2] How far is it from the house?
[3] Can 2 persons get the job done?
[4] How large is it?
[5] What do you use it for? I assume strictly storage, and not a greenhouse?

Sorry for many questions, but that looks like what I was thinking of doing.

Thanks,

It is 2 inch galvanized pipe with galvanized elbows, T's, and 3-way T's. The screen is 30% shade cloth with grommets every foot. Tony (sunfish) and I put it together in about 3 4-hour sessions. I bought the parts from one of my agricultural suppliers, American Horticultural Supply based out of Oxnard, CA. It is a plant shelter for the 4-inch plants I sell at farmer's markets, propagation, etc. and a portion of it is also a patio for the family. The total dimensions are about 20 feet by 40 feet by 10 feet high. Here's a picture of it taken about a month ago:

Want Them All · 09-19-2009, 12:05 AM

Did you drive to Oxnard to pick up them pipes? I see pipes like these at Home Depot and Lowes. Why 30% shade cloth? Would something a little less or more matter?

Thanks,

Richard · 09-19-2009, 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Want Them All

Did you drive to Oxnard to pick up them pipes? I see pipes like these at Home Depot and Lowes. Why 30% shade cloth? Would something a little less or more matter?

Thanks,

No, there is no delivery charge for orders over $500. They have offices in San Marcos (San Diego county) and Modesto also. You can get the pipe from Home Depot but probably not the joints. Further, Home Depot charges much more for the product.

In my climate, 30% shade cloth is ideal because:
- It breaks the impact of very infrequent but sometimes hard rain
- It is an excellent wind sheild from the 40+ mph winds we have (Santa Ana) in the Fall
- It allows flowering plants to grow and bloom without getting leggy
- It reduces my summer water usage by 1/2
- It keeps out a lot of insect pests

Richard · 09-21-2009, 03:21 PM

The 10-yard hauler in front of my house is over half full now, and the rock+dirt pile from the plant shelter construction is just about gone!

Richard · 09-24-2009, 07:21 PM

Yea! The rocks are gone alongside the plant shelter and the side of my house! Now to finish the plat construction!

sunfish · 09-24-2009, 08:10 PM

Hey thats my shovel leaning against the fence.

Want Them All · 09-24-2009, 10:23 PM

Lotsa work, but looks so nice already. Don't you 2 have regular jobs?

momoese · 09-25-2009, 01:01 PM

You going to finish it this weekend?

Richard · 09-25-2009, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by momoese

You going to finish it this weekend?

Almost. What's left to do:
Lay the bottom course of the 2nd side -- at this rate will finish today (in 95 F temps!).
Insert the rebar and lay second course - just an hour's work.
Fetch 15 bags of cement, mix, and center pour the blocks - 1/2 day.
Fetch 30 feet of 4" drain pipe and parts, 1/2 cu.yd. 0.5" gravel and install drain - 1/2 day.
Fetch 1.5 cu.yds. Humic Compost, 1 cu.yd. Horticultural Sand and mix with existing 1 cu.yd. local soil to fill the plat bed - 3/4 day.
Plant 6 bananas from 2 and 25 gallon pots -- couple hours.
Install irrigation "heads" and test -- 1/2 day.
Fetch and install 1 cu.yd. of perennial mulch over the entire surface -- 1/2 day.

I might have 3 days to devote to it over the next week, so we'll see what gets done!

Jananas Bananas · 09-25-2009, 01:33 PM

Boy that seems like a lot to get done in a weekend or three days Richard. You must have a really strong back! Good Job! I can see that you are the envy of the neighborhood.

Richard · 09-26-2009, 05:23 PM

Progress report! My next available day to work on it is probably Wednesday.

Lay the bottom course of the 2nd side -- at this rate will finish today (in 95 F temps!).
Insert the rebar and lay second course - just an hour's work.
Fetch 15 bags of cement, mix, and center pour the blocks - 1/2 day.
Fetch 30 feet of 4" drain pipe and parts, 1/2 cu.yd. 0.5" gravel and install drain - 1/2 day.
Fetch 1.5 cu.yds. Humic Compost, 1 cu.yd. Horticultural Sand and mix with existing 1 cu.yd. local soil to fill the plat bed - 3/4 day.
Plant 6 bananas from 2 and 25 gallon pots -- couple hours.
Install irrigation "heads" and test -- 1/2 day.
Fetch and install 1 cu.yd. of perennial mulch over the entire surface -- 1/2 day.

harveyc · 09-27-2009, 12:41 AM

I hope you get some cooler weather like we're finally expected to get. We've been 97F-99F but mid 80s on Monday and mid 70s on Tuesday. Crazy. Fall is arriving a week late.

Richard · 09-27-2009, 12:47 AM

Today it was 102 F for 4 hours.

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