Brazilian or Manzano?

tropicalfreakfla · 03-21-2008, 09:52 AM

Can anyone tell me about these? I will be getting the tall, whatever one I decide. How tall which each one get?

Which fruit taste best?

Thanks,
Cliff

bencelest · 03-21-2008, 10:12 AM

Definitely Manzano for me. Manzano is one of the best tasting bananas there is. Brazilian as one member puts it, because of the taste he'd get rid of it as soon as he's able.

tropicalfreakfla · 03-21-2008, 10:25 AM

What does the Manzano taste like?

bencelest · 03-21-2008, 10:41 AM

here's an excerpts"The 4" fruits are sweet yet have a slight tartness. Manzano is the Spanish name for "Apple". The taste has also been compared to a cross between an apple and a very sweet banana. The plant can reach 12'-14'. .

Greenie · 03-21-2008, 12:01 PM

i prefer the manzano.The d. brazilian will will fruit anywhere from 8 to 10 ft while the manzano will hit about 12.

Richard · 03-21-2008, 12:03 PM

I have heard from people who prefer the Dwarf Brazilean to most anything. You might want to taste them before deciding.

The data I have collected are:

Dwarf Brazillian (aka Prata Ana, Santa Catarina Prata)
genetics = AAB
subgroup = Pome (aka Ladyfinger)
USDA hardiness = 8.5
Typical height = 8 ft
Extreme height = 15 ft
Pseudostem color = green
Leaf color = green
Wind tolerance = good
Typical pup count = 4
Rachis position = falls vertical
Fruit usage = fresh
Mature peel color = yellow
Mature pulp color = cream
Typical Fruit length = 6 in
Typical fruit diameter = 1.6 in
Pest resistance = excellent
Panama disease = resistant
Black Sigatoka = resistant
Yellow Sigatoka = susceptible

Manzano (aka African Apple Banana)
genetics = AAB
subgroup = Pome (aka Ladyfinger)
USDA hardiness = 9.5
Typical height = 12 ft
Extreme height = 25 ft
Pseudostem color = green
Leaf color = green
Fruit usage = fresh

I hope this helps!

Rmplmnz · 03-21-2008, 08:35 PM

Many growers in Florida would never plant Manzano due to suseptibility to Panama disease......is this a potential concern for you?

http://www.apsnet.org/online/feature...Snet102005.pdf

I know this is the reason Going Bananas has never carried them:

Catalog of banana plants offered at Going Bananas

If so grow Brazilian...I love Manzanos..(more so than Braz...not as sweet with a "sub-acid flavor") I occasionally buy them at the local Spanish markets..just have never grown them (I grow Brazilians)...

pitangadiego · 03-21-2008, 09:37 PM

Brazilian has nice flavor. They are roughly the same height. Manzano has always underperformed.

momoese · 03-21-2008, 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bencelest

Definitely Manzano for me. Manzano is one of the best tasting bananas there is. Brazilian as one member puts it, because of the taste he'd get rid of it as soon as he's able.

Ohhhh Benny, you have not tasted my Tall Brazilians/Hawaiian Apples! Super sweet with a slight granny apple acidity. Sort of a flavor bomb! I can also say that every single person who has tried these fruits from my plants (4 seasons old now) and the mother plants from another garden that I was privileged to harvest for 15 years prior, have absolutely loved them! Not one person ever said they didn't like them. I can't say that for any of my other fruits!

Greenie · 03-21-2008, 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pitangadiego

Manzano has always underperformed.

pitangadiego,
How about the Golden Pillow?,which is supposed to be better than the Manzano.....
Thanks,
Frank..........

STEELVIPER · 03-21-2008, 10:31 PM

Manzano for me. Taste real sweet. My neighbor grows D.Brazilian. Taste good, but i like manzano better.

NANAMAN · 03-22-2008, 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rmplmnz

Many growers in Florida would never plant Manzano due to suseptibility to Panama disease......is this a potential concern for you?

http://www.apsnet.org/online/feature...Snet102005.pdf

I know this is the reason Going Bananas has never carried them:

Catalog of banana plants offered at Going Bananas

If so grow Brazilian...I love Manzanos..(more so than Braz...not as sweet with a "sub-acid flavor") I occasionally buy them at the local Spanish markets..just have never grown them (I grow Brazilians)...

Disease has been a concern, but I love the taste sooo... much , I'm willing to take the chance. I've had my Manzano for over 15 yrs. , no signs of disease yet!

bencelest · 03-22-2008, 09:38 AM

Alright guys, now you all are now defending dwarf Brazilian. My choice is Manzano because I love the taste of it but never had the chance tasting DB.
But you know what?
I have a DB in my yard right now ready to bloom (compliments of Joe Real). So in another 8 months I'll let you guys know what my conclusion is.

Richard · 03-22-2008, 10:00 AM

Tropicalfreakfla,
You might want to try them before deciding. Notice how people have different tastes! Some sweet, some fruity, some tangy. I have some friends from SE Asia that are so accustom to acidless fruit that they find peaches and apricots are too sour. Then there are pit fruit lovers who can't handle acidless citrus: the fruits are insipid to them. Of course, many of us like them all -- our favorite is the one we are currently eating.

bencelest · 03-22-2008, 10:34 AM

You are so right Richard.

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