California-Croatia - Page 2

Dalmatiansoap · 07-15-2009, 09:15 AM

Well, back on a tracks!
I have one papaya (fruit) from store, so the question is can I and how prepare seeds from fruit for sowing?
Do I have to dry them first or what?
Man has to start with something

Jack Daw · 07-15-2009, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Dalmatiansoap

Well, back on a tracks!
I have one papaya (fruit) from store, so the question is can I and how prepare seeds from fruit for sowing?
Do I have to dry them first or what?
Man has to start with something

Here you go Ante, good luck:
Germinating papaya seeds...
Germinating papaya seeds - Tropicals Forum - GardenWeb

Richard · 07-15-2009, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Dalmatiansoap

I have one papaya (fruit) from store, so the question is can I and how prepare seeds from fruit for sowing?

Ante,
I'm hoping it is Mexican papaya or something suitable for your climate. The zone 12 papayas from Africa are going to have a tough time!

Dalmatiansoap · 07-15-2009, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Richard

Ante,
I'm hoping it is Mexican papaya or something suitable for your climate. The zone 12 papayas from Africa are going to have a tough time!

Ou, Richard
it is from Eqator. I think Hawaian typ maybe. Worth trying

.

Richard · 07-15-2009, 11:30 AM

Plants are always worth trying! But it is a zone 12 variety.

Dalmatiansoap · 07-15-2009, 11:40 AM

. Any varieties for 9?

Kalabrian · 07-15-2009, 11:54 AM

The only varieties for 9, as said, are Carica Pentagona (babacus) and Carica Quercifolia (oak-leaved papaya). Both have fruits quite different from what is generally meant by "papaya". However they are worth a try.

I have some plants very small of quercifolia but searching for a babacus. I strongly suggest you to search one of these as ordinary papaya will have a though time there and you will make the poor plant suffer and suffer. I do not want to seem nasty, I am only saying, if you want to grow papaya you have to recover them inside the house in winter or you will lost them. Sorry but it is the sad truth.

Richard, I have a story concerning African papaya. Usually as you said is the less hardy. However I know a family from Seychelle who coming here to Calabria as immigrants brought back seeds of a Papaya which is popular at their location on the mountains. They did not tell me exactly but their description was that they lived in a very elevated place in Seychelles, while of course I am sure it was a frost-free still. In any case these papayas produce very well in their new home in Calabria and as far as now is the only case of such a successful production here. All other people have to cover papayas in winter even in the most warm frost-free areas. They instead do not cover the plants and have plenty fruit. They promised me seeds but I do not see them from a while now and I do not know right now how to contact them, as they live quit far from my home (200 km).

However it must be precised that the record low in their location in Calabria is something like 2 degrees C ABOVE the zero, which equals maybe to 35-36 F.

Peace to all

Dalmatiansoap · 07-15-2009, 01:32 PM

Probably is so, but I want to try anyway. Even kick in ass is step forward, right?

Jack Daw · 07-15-2009, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Dalmatiansoap

Probably is so, but I want to try anyway. Even kick in ass is step forward, right?

I knew you would go like this. We're just so similar.

It depends on how strong the kick was and where precisely.

You know Ante, I grow citruses in large pots with special Slovak cutting style applied mostly for apples. So who's crazier?

john_ny · 07-15-2009, 02:08 PM

Ante - You do not have to dry the seeds. However, they will germinate much quicker if you rub off the shiny, clear, gelatinous covering that is there when you remove them from the fruit.

The picture, below, shows two trays. Both were planted the same day. The one on the right had the coatings removed; the one on the left did not. The picture was taken 18 days after sowing.

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Dalmatiansoap · 07-15-2009, 02:23 PM

That is just what I am looking for. Thank you John!

pitangadiego · 07-15-2009, 05:29 PM

Mexican Papaya seems pretty cold tolerant, at least to 38F with no issues. The hawaiian ones seem to do almost as well, if you can get them through at least one winter. The first winter, anything below 50ish gets really touchy. Too much water in cold weather is a complete killer - they rot very easy.

Dalmatiansoap · 07-15-2009, 06:18 PM

They will be indoors for first winter pretty shore and if it goes well next spring in open and what will be will be. Just need to find nice shaltered spot for them, well, for strongest one.
Hey Pitangadiego, I was browsing your web for few times and U have really good things and informations there. Specially like figs part and I m going to have a few questions for U if U wouldnt mind later this fall.
Well I did many stupid things in my life beafore so this papaya sowing will not be first for sure

I just love U guys

Dalmatiansoap · 11-04-2009, 01:22 PM

I recived Passiflora seed from Tony in California today.
I ll give my best

Hey Mr. Green Spring, Im comming

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