High color mini question

sandy0225 · 08-22-2007, 11:36 AM

Is a high color mini dwarf cavendish (agristarts) considered an edible banana or an ornamental banana? I know it's pretty, but does it make an edible, seedless fruit?
Thanks for your help

Gabe15 · 08-22-2007, 12:36 PM

Theoretically yes, but I have yet to see one actually flower. If it were to, it would most certainly be a seedless fruit being a Cavendish, but the plant still be considered ornamental only if it is not capable of actually producing fruit. It could just keep dieing and regenerating without ever flowering, or may produce a very weak bunch, or...it could produce lovely fruit, who knows, I don't, but they don't seem to be any sort of prolific flower producer.

NANAMAN · 08-22-2007, 03:14 PM

What timing for this thread, mine is just opening a flower this week! The flower is big for the plant's size, and I expect to have a good size bunch. I received this plant as a 6 inch TC in a 4 inch pot on 10/25/06. The only complaint I have is the plant lost all red markings at about 1 1/2 foot. It is flowering at just under 3 feet. Here's a few pics.:

Gabe15 · 08-22-2007, 04:07 PM

well there you have it, looks like it'll be a nice good bunch. I wonder if it will be vertical/horizontal like some normal SDC, keep posting pics.

frankthetank · 08-22-2007, 05:21 PM

Very impressive. That flower is huge. Lots of pineapples in the background. Nice.

NANAMAN · 08-22-2007, 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gabe15

well there you have it, looks like it'll be a nice good bunch. I wonder if it will be vertical/horizontal like some normal SDC, keep posting pics.

Yea I cut the leaf off just below the flower to give it some room, but at present it seems to want to hang more horizontally. I'll take more pictures in a couple weeks.

Taylor · 08-22-2007, 07:50 PM

Hey Nanaman!
What is the current height of your Siam Ruby from Base to newest leaf-exiting point. Whats it called....

NANAMAN · 08-22-2007, 08:26 PM

Taylor, pseudostem height is 3ft on the tallest one.

Taylor · 08-22-2007, 08:35 PM

Wow. I hope you get a bloom next year. Fertilize, Fertilize, Fertilize! I wonder if they will store well.

Hopefully better than Zebrina

Good Luck Brian! Sell pups one day?

Taylor

Greenie · 08-23-2007, 01:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NANAMAN

What timing for this thread, mine is just opening a flower this week! The flower is big for the plant's size, and I expect to have a good size bunch. I received this plant as a 6 inch TC in a 4 inch pot on 10/25/06. The only complaint I have is the plant lost all red markings at about 1 1/2 foot. It is flowering at just under 3 feet. Here's a few pics.:

Lagniappe · 08-23-2007, 10:53 PM

That is a really cool plant . It reminds me of Audrey II .
http://images.google.com/images?sour...=1&sa=N&tab=wi

sandy0225 · 09-19-2007, 06:41 AM

Thanks for the response and the pictures! Wow that is one cool looking plant...Congratulations.
I got some "mini" from Sunshine horticulture, and they never did have any color to them like the high colors that I got from Agristarts. Those little suckers are really growing though (the two that I have left, anyway!)

NANAMAN · 09-20-2007, 01:05 AM

Here's an updated pic or two of the fruit bunch. 7 hands and hanging more vertically.

MediaHound · 09-20-2007, 10:32 AM

Awesome!!!!
Congrats!

I was just going to add your pictures to the wiki but I noticed Ron beat me to it.
http://www.bananas.org/wiki/Musa_High_Color_Mini

Crazy_canuck · 09-20-2007, 12:19 PM

very cool. I have never seen HCM with bananas before.

momoese · 09-20-2007, 01:47 PM

Wow, that is really awesome! Congrats!!

NANAMAN · 09-21-2007, 08:17 AM

Thanks for the kudos everyone! I know other members have said that it was difficult to get a flower on theirs, but this thing is one of the more vigorous plants I have grown. It was grown in a pot for 3/4 of it's life, but I got tired of it being blown over by storms. I think it would have fruited in the pot if I had any patience. South Fl. growers should have no problem getting this one to produce a bunch of fruit!

Marc · 10-01-2007, 07:26 AM

FYI, Home 'Crapo' Depot is selling 'High Color Mini' here in Florida in an 8" pot with other premium annuals for under $5.00. I got one from Tropiflora in the spring as a 4" pot and now its in a full 7g, great patio plant. Lost the red though. I have seen some fruiting here in Naples, just looks like smaller Dwf Cavendish.

NANAMAN · 12-01-2007, 10:27 AM

Here's a few updated pics. of the HCM:

and here's a pic of the fruit that split:

I'm not sure why they split but I wasn't around much to see the fruit growth process!

bencelest · 12-01-2007, 10:58 AM

I am impressed!

08-22-2007, 11:36 AM	#1 (permalink)
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