barnetmill

My area is marginal for bananas. I sort of protected the one banana that I have and ended with what I believe you call the p-stem still alive and one ratty leaf. It has seen sent out a new leaf. I have a new bulldog canine puppy that poops and I would like to put it to good use. How will dog poop likely work on bananas? I also have wood ashes which should also help.

thanks for any comments.

Figaro

If you're going to use animal manure of any carnivour, you should compost it first.

Illia

Any carnivorous poo really does need to be composted well. I'd suggest you pile it over time into a heap and let it age. Personally though I just let the poo sit into the ground it lands out here. ("wild" sections near lawns, etc)

barnetmill

Will shall we say "unweathered" dog poop burn the banana plant.

I am leaving it around, but feces can provide vital habitat for biting flies and I think it should be removed and if possible used. I do not know if flies will result in my part of florida or not. I see I will likely have to look this up the necessity of composting feces first. I do not use the word manure since that is often used for cattle which likely has a very different composition than dog feces.

sunfish

Figaro

Here's some places to start:

Are All Animal Manures Safe for an Organic Garden ? -

What Is Manure Compost?

Manure: Safe, or Not? - NYTimes.com

wolfyhound

Any ideas about rat used shavings? I use kiln dried pine shavings for my rats, and I have a lot of the used bedding leftover. I have a giant pile outside to compost but it doesn't break down very fast.

My ideas have been to wet it more(run a hose into the center every few days), to get cow/horse manure to add to the bedding to assist in breaking down, or ask for more ideas.

trebor

Dog stool ! Boy that stuff smells .. Also depending on what your feeding the dog ?
See some dog foods get their protein from animal fat ( read your label ) That stool will wake up the next door neighbor in a compost pile . Its also loaded with larva of lots of worms that can be transferred to humans.. YUCK
Hears the deal when it comes to stool .. Animals that feed on grass or grains drop a stool that is safe to compost in your back yard. These droppings break down and return good material back to our soil.. Kinda like a vegetarian fertilizer delight
So I love dogs ! I like it when they bark and jump on me ! I like it when they sleep on the floor and I walk over them .. My usual comment at that time is “ Only to be a dog today “ But dude I ain’t using their poop for my plants That stuff will never see my compost pile
Im no expert ! Just a guy with plants in his yard And I want you to read about dog worm larva .. I guess Tony has a link to it posted here!

Rat droppings should be OK as long as your feeding grains and or a good lab block or chicken scratch. The one small set back with rat dropping and the pine shaving loaded with rodent urine is its a natural snake attractor or maybe Elixir is a better word to use.. I would use it because here all I would attract is a Corn Snake . They are not going to hurt me. Also Opossum and Racoons might show up to see whats in you compost pile..

So for me Its No Dog stool and OK on rodent litter

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wolfyhound

I'd love to attract snakes! Hasn't happened yet in the years I've had the pile though.

A well maintained dog shouldn't have worms in their stool though. The monthly heartworm treatment(basically ivomectrin) that all dogs should be on kills all worms except for tapeworms generally. If you see tapeworms, you have to get droncit from the vet for that.

cincinnana

Poop Is Bad Unless You Are Growing Tilapia In China!!!!!!
Google It...........for Real!!!
You might not eat Tilapia again.

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sunfish

I'd burn it

wolfyhound

It's generally too damp to burn well, and we're normally under burn bans. Otherwise, I'd probably set it on fire happily.

Kostas

The used bedding from the rats is ideal for using as mulch so just use it as such,no reason to want it to break down fast. I use the used bedding from animals i have as mulch and its great,the only problem for me is that i have too little to use.

Now,for dog poop,if you have a large piece of land,you can just let it decompose wherever it falls but if you only have a small area,like i unfortunately do,that is not practical nor sanitary. So i would advise to pick them and only let very few decompose where they are,and maybe you could use a few of the other pieces around your bananas and other plants,under the mulch,but the majority will probably have to be thrown out. I do not compost,nor use compost,i just mulch as it takes much less effort to do and the benefits are the same eventually! I do not know how good dog poop would be as an ingredient to compost but given that you would have to mess around with it for the compost to be made,i see that it could me more of a health hazard there than left in place to decompose. But still,only a very large piece of land could absorb all this poop without it being a nuisance.

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sandy0225

I have a customer who throws all his dog crap into his basjoo clump. Since you're not going to eat it anyway, who cares? unless it's near your patio and then that might get kind of gross. We clean out the litter box and throw it into the bamboo. It's away from the house, and we don't eat it either.

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bananimal

The reason composted cow manure is widely available is cows do not thoroughly digest their food. Same for rabbits. This leaves enough useful nutrients to provide plant nutrition. Composting breaks it down, kills bacteria and generally kills the smell. And they don't eat meat. Except once when a pet rabbit chomped down on my finger. lol

andy17

The biggest concern with dog poop is that it's loaded with bacteria just like human poop and is dangerous to use for food purposes because it usually contains bacteria like E. coli. Also like trebor said too, it can harbor or be a breeding ground for parasites and maggots. Some people have successfully composed dog waste, but from all of my organic gardening resources, dog, cat, and rodent waste are not recommended for use with edible plants as a fertilizer unless carefully treated. The safest bet is to use well-composed horse, cow, or chicken manure.

I love dogs too! I have two labs and looked into this myself as well, but in the end I decided there were safer sources out there. Hope this helps! Best wishes

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barnetmill

I went ahead and buried some dog poop with a post hole digger 24 inches from my then small banana plant. Other than a little mulch this year I added nothing else. Last november after at least 5 years the nana had only 5 leaves. Last time I counted after the dog poop amendment was 9 leaves in july. I did also reduce the shade and perhaps the increased sunlight also helped. I wrapped the stem this last winter and left part of upper 5th leaf from last year alive. I am now a firm believer in dog poop for nanas. I tend to for better or worse think outside of the box, but I do appreciate criticisms and advice that are freely given.