'Hua Moa' freakazoid sport

Gabe15 · 07-05-2008, 10:14 PM

I remember seeing something like this on eBay awhile back, some messed up 'Hua Moa' tissue culture sport, this seems to be something similar. I found it at a local nursery among a few normal looking 'Hua Moa'. Has anyone else come across these, or something similar?

natedogg1026 · 07-05-2008, 10:51 PM

New to me. Gabe, ha' come you always come across the cool banana's? You lucky dog.

dablo93 · 07-06-2008, 04:44 AM

strange and very beautiful!

mskitty38583 · 07-06-2008, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by natedogg1026

New to me. Gabe, ha' come you always come across the cool banana's? You lucky dog.

because he lives in a banana friendly environment....yes gabe you are very lucky!

Chironex · 07-06-2008, 10:01 AM

Man, I gotta go banana shopping with you Gabe. I only find beat-up half-dead bananas that are nothing special.

Gabe15 · 07-06-2008, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by mskitty38583

because he lives in a banana friendly environment....yes gabe you are very lucky!

I am actually in Colorado for the summer and found this at a local nursery in Denver!

Chironex · 07-06-2008, 10:08 AM

Hua Moa in Denver? Holy moley!

mskitty38583 · 07-06-2008, 10:33 AM

in denver,co? wow! im impressed! its a awesome nana. ive not seen one like it. gabe what is it genetically close to in reference?

Gabe15 · 07-06-2008, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by mskitty38583

in denver,co? wow! im impressed! its a awesome nana. ive not seen one like it. gabe what is it genetically close to in reference?

It is a Hawaiian traditional variety, AAB, and very similar to some other Polynesian cooking varieties. It is in the Popo'ulu subgroup of AAB Hawaiian traditional varieties. The other subgroupss are Iholena (3 available in the US) and Maoli ('Aeae' and 'Ele'ele' are both Maoli types).

Gabe15 · 07-06-2008, 11:18 AM

Just for comparison, on the right is a normal formed 'Siam Ruby' of the same size, the other 'Hua Moa' at the nursery had the same form as this 'Siam Ruby', with about 3 large leaves.

chong · 07-06-2008, 12:01 PM

Sounds like the effects of hormone growth inducement, under favorable conditions.

The landscape on the outside doesn't look very much like HI. Are you still in CO? I was curious because if you are in CO, I would be impressed that a local nursery would carry Hua Moa there. Usually it's Basjoo, other Cavendish, etc.

Is that a bottle of "Superthrive" on the windowsill to the right?

Gabe15 · 07-06-2008, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by chong

Sounds like the effects of hormone growth inducement, under favorable conditions.

The landscape on the outside doesn't look very much like HI. Are you still in CO? I was curious because if you are in CO, I would be impressed that a local nursery would carry Hua Moa there. Usually it's Basjoo, other Cavendish, etc.

Is that a bottle of "Superthrive" on the windowsill to the right?

see above.

ya, that is Superthrive, I've used it before, not sure if it really does anything, but someone gave it to me so I'll mess with it.

buzzwinder · 07-06-2008, 12:17 PM

Leave it to Gabe to find a freakazoid Banana Plant in the top of the Rocky Mountain Range, Dude you truly amaze me with your knowledge and Eye for Bananas. Congrats on the find, and thanks for sharing.

TracyWV · 07-06-2008, 10:43 PM

Hmmm, I wonder if that thick stemmed leafy creature will reproduce true or if it's a one-timer.

Greenie · 07-07-2008, 01:44 AM

cool!

Marc · 07-10-2008, 03:08 PM

Looks like it got growth regulated

sandy0225 · 07-10-2008, 04:14 PM

That's what I thought too. Looks like someone put a little bonzi on it! I thought about doing that with a few of my ornamentals, but the darned stuff costs too much.

Gabe15 · 07-10-2008, 07:25 PM

I can assure that this one was growing in the exact same conditions as the others that looked completely normal. To me, it appears to be a sport from TC. In TC, plants will sometimes mutate, this one is displaying some interesting growth traits that lead me to believe it was not caused by an outside factor.

jrozier · 07-13-2008, 10:16 PM

Gabe,

I got one from a Florida member. He said it was a tissue culture mutant, and there were quite a few of them at a nursery near him. This is the banana that keeps making aerial roots (sp?) He also had one that pupped that was identical. Mine hasn't pupped, but keeps wanting to fall over once it makes those roots along the trunk. It is a really pretty, different looking banana.

chong · 07-13-2008, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by jrozier

Gabe,

I got one from a Florida member. He said it was a tissue culture mutant, and there were quite a few of them at a nursery near him. This is the banana that keeps making aerial roots (sp?) He also had one that pupped that was identical. Mine hasn't pupped, but keeps wanting to fall over once it makes those roots along the trunk. It is a really pretty, different looking banana.

Ever thought of adding soil to the point that the p-bulb is an inch below the soil line? I think the reason it's doing that is that most of the nutrients are on the upper layer of the soil, then below that there is not much nutrients. Or the lower portions of the soil does not get aerated, or conversely, even watered, at all.

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