musa red tiger,hardly any roots?

jasmine2005 · 06-17-2009, 11:34 AM

hi everyone

i had a musa skim red tiger given to me for free at a tropical garden centre,it had been over wintered,but it had fallen on its side,when looking at the base of the stem,there was 2 roots that are holding the plant and soil together,i took the plant and of its pot and the pot was full of roots,is there anything i can do,to get more roots at the bottom of the stem,i have potted it up with bonemeal and fresh compost and slow release fertilizer,any other advice or tips would be a great help thanks,best wishes jazz

sunfish · 06-17-2009, 11:57 AM

I have had the same problem with some of my plants. The plant is growing fine ,but I had to stake them. My solution was to plant them deeper.

Bananaman88 · 06-17-2009, 12:02 PM

I've encountered this problem before with Ensete maurelli. Seems to be a root rot issue. How well does your soil drain?

jasmine2005 · 06-17-2009, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by sunfish

I have had the same problem with some of my plants. The plant is growing fine ,but I had to stake them. My solution was to plant them deeper.

hi tony thanks for you comment,the plant itself is in great condtion,i have potted it up so the stem is in the pot deeper and i have added a lot of drainage to the compost,i just hope it picks up,i might have to stake it has it gets larger,will let you know the outcome,i will take a photo of the plant and put in my gallery very shortly,for everyone to see

jasmine2005 · 06-17-2009, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Bananaman88

I've encountered this problem before with Ensete maurelli. Seems to be a root rot issue. How well does your soil drain?

hi brent,the plant is in great condition,i have lots of drainage in the pot,the plant was given to me free from a garden centre,because they could not sell it,but me being me i wanted to take it home and give it some tender loving care,i think it will be ok,given time,there is quite a lot of root in the pot,i have to make sure that the only two roots dont break,do you think by adding rooting powder to the base of the plant ,weather it would encourage more root to grow?i have added bonemeal to the soil to help it along

Bob · 06-17-2009, 12:39 PM

Jazz, by any chance is your well drained soil amended with lots of sand. I recently sent out some plants and found that these amended with sand had half the root growth of those that were high in perlite/ vermiculite etc. These were pretty healthy plants to look at but the difference in root growth was stunning to me.

john_ny · 06-17-2009, 01:37 PM

I had one that got broken off at about ground level. There were no roots on it, just a slight swelling, like the very top part of the corm. Threw it in a pot and, in the fall, brought it inside. It didn't really do anything most of the winter. Earl this spring, I noticed that the stem had dried up, and fallen over, but there was a nice pup alongside. The pup is now about 2 feet. (60 cm.)

jasmine2005 · 06-17-2009, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob

Jazz, by any chance is your well drained soil amended with lots of sand. I recently sent out some plants and found that these amended with sand had half the root growth of those that were high in perlite/ vermiculite etc. These were pretty healthy plants to look at but the difference in root growth was stunning to me.

hi bob

when it was given to me,the soil had no sand or any perlite just pure wet compost,i have now potted it up with bonemeal,compost,slow release fertilizer and perlite for good drainage,do you think bob by adding rooting powder to the base of the stem would help?any tips or advice welcome

Bob · 06-17-2009, 04:29 PM

I wouldn't bother with a rooting hormone. It was probably just kept too wet. If you have a nice mix give it some time and with the warmer weather I bet it does fine.

jasmine2005 · 06-20-2009, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Bananaman88

I've encountered this problem before with Ensete maurelli. Seems to be a root rot issue. How well does your soil drain?

the soli drains fine,just planted the plant deeper hoping it will grow more roots,i will let you know the outcome

mm4birds · 06-20-2009, 08:49 PM

where do you get warmer weather from ? :raftingnaner:

jmoore · 06-21-2009, 03:32 AM

How do you do it Jazz? Free plants from garden centres!? musa 'red tiger'. I have never seen this plant in any garden centres.

I'm moving to worcester, sounds like that's the banana capital.

jasmine2005 · 06-21-2009, 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by jmoore

How do you do it Jazz? Free plants from garden centres!? musa 'red tiger'. I have never seen this plant in any garden centres.

I'm moving to worcester, sounds like that's the banana capital.

hi james,thanks for your quote

i dont know how i do it sometimes lol

yes the red tiger is a beauty,i will post some pics of the plants i have,when you move to worcs go and vist chris and kel at akamba in shirley birmingham,they are great,look it up on the net,Akamba - a garden centre like no other! you will love it,as soon as you go into the car park,you will see what i mean,the only banana plants they have there are musa basjoo,musella lasiocarpa,ensete ventricosum,ensete maurelli,musa sikkimensis red tiger,it is a tropical place,they will make you feel most welcome,also try vales in evesham, vale-exotics They have the same,but akamba to me is better,thats my view,hope this helps,best wishes jazz

Mark Hall · 06-21-2009, 10:01 AM

James , I will second what Jazz has said about Akamba. It's like no other nursery you have been too. Infact a few of us are going back up there on the 4th July

Kel also gives good discounts too.

Here is a vid of it when we visited last year with another forum.

And yes that is me testing the sharpness of a cactus

YouTube - Hardy Tropicals Forum Meet at Akamba

Jazz, you know all the good places then

Bob · 06-21-2009, 10:10 AM

That was too cool. Wish I had a place like that here.

mm4birds · 06-21-2009, 02:47 PM

cool place! But I see you drive on the wrong side of the road

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