Is it necessary to provide some shade in this case?

Want Them All · 09-22-2009, 09:36 PM

Just planted 1 of my Goldfinger last night, watered well, mulched. Today the high temp was in the upper 90s. Came home after work to find a few of the leaves were wilted and burned (browned). Will it recover or should I place an umbrella temporarily until the plant gets more established? I'm thinking it may be a combination of planting shock AND high heat, but want to run it by you experts. The other Goldfinger is still in pot, and it was also out in the open sun. Its leaves got a little burned too, but not as bad as the planted one. For comparison, the Ice Cream that has been in the ground for over 2 years is oblivious to the heat, but maybe it's a more hardy plant compared to Goldfinger.

browndrake · 09-23-2009, 12:05 AM

Has it been inside, in a pot, and you just put it outside today..in full sun?
It is important to let plants acclimatize to full sun.

I am surely no expert, but have experienced young tc plants and fairly high temps. I planted some outside in July, when it was 105. I worked them into full sun, from full shade over a several day period and they were able to survive the heat okay.

good luck

aaron

Richard · 09-23-2009, 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by browndrake

Has it been inside, in a pot, and you just put it outside today..in full sun?
It is important to let plants acclimatize to full sun.

I am surely no expert, but have experienced young tc plants and fairly high temps. I planted some outside in July, when it was 105. I worked them into full sun, from full shade over a several day period and they were able to survive the heat okay.

good luck

aaron

Great advice.

planetrj · 09-23-2009, 02:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Want Them All

Ice Cream that has been in the ground for over 2 years is oblivious to the heat, but maybe it's a more hardy plant compared to Goldfinger.

I have GF and BJ (Ice Cream) about 15 feet from each other, and they are on the east facing side of the house. They both get absolutely blasted with full sun all day from about 11 am - 6pm. I don't have any problem with either. However, I have a young Darjeeling and a Praying Hands in pots in morning sun until 1pm, then shade the rest of them day. They both got seriously leaf burned when we had a few days of 100 degrees. I think it's more about the establishing and the ability to have built up the cuticle on the upper leaf surface. That's what really helps them become nice strong plants that can resist the worst of times. Even cold.

sunfish · 09-23-2009, 08:23 AM

There shouldn't be any planting shock with a fully rooted plant unless it wasn't watered in. Most likely going from shade to full sun is the problem. It will bounce back but giving it a little shade until it does wouldn't hurt.

Want Them All · 09-23-2009, 10:56 AM

OK, I'll acclimatize the other Goldfinger before planting it. Yes, they were in shade and was thrown into the open sun right away.

Interestingly, the Mysore (which is taller than the Goldfinger, 6' vs. 5') is fine, planted at the same time. It shows no ill effect from the sun.

Thanks,

Gabe15 · 09-23-2009, 04:39 PM

In my experience, you can slowly move the plants out and it reduces the visible shock. If you just throw it out in the field the leaves will burn and it will look terrible for a bit, however it will then quickly come back with leaves that are capable of handling the full sun.

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