Real Ice Cream at Quail?

caliboy1994 · 11-03-2011, 11:09 AM

I know for a fact that they grow the real Ice Cream banana at Quail Botanical Gardens, but is the one that they sell the real one too? I'm going to be in the San Diego area next weekend so I might want to pick one up.

Richard · 11-03-2011, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by caliboy1994

I know for a fact that they grow the real Ice Cream banana at Quail Botanical Gardens, but is the one that they sell the real one too? I'm going to be in the San Diego area next weekend so I might want to pick one up.

It is difficult to get accurate answers from the personnel there. It is mostly staffed by well-meaning volunteers who operate on rumors.

pitangadiego · 11-03-2011, 01:11 PM

They have the real Ice Cream growing in the "Banana Boulevard". However, other varieties have crept into the IC patch, so depending on which pup was taken, might not be IC.

caliboy1994 · 11-03-2011, 02:23 PM

I'll probably just get it from someon on the Org then.

sunfish · 11-03-2011, 02:33 PM

The name has changed to San Diego Botanic Garden

caliboy1994 · 11-03-2011, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by sunfish

The name has changed to San Diego Botanic Garden

Yes, I knew that. I just thought that people would be more familiar with the old name.

trebor · 11-03-2011, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by caliboy1994

I'll probably just get it from someon on the Org then.

Well I hope you get one

I been reading about them here so much I got a TC.. I put it in a pot in the back yard, I’m waiting to see where I’m going to plant it

…I’m running out of room.. My wife says NO BANANAS in the front yard! So now with luck I will have a two year wait
I have a variegated citrus I could yank .. Ha ha

pitangadiego · 11-03-2011, 06:55 PM

I might add, that three "Ice Cream" bananas from Home Depot were not correctly labeled. I finally got mine from a friend of a friend who had verified their plant.

Sunfish, It is going to be "Quail Gardens" for a long time, yet. A name change doesn't undo decades of history and experience. ;-))

caliboy1994 · 11-03-2011, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by pitangadiego

I might add, that three "Ice Cream" bananas from Home Depot were not correctly labeled. I finally got mine from a friend of a friend who had verified their plant.

Sunfish, It is going to be "Quail Gardens" for a long time, yet. A name change doesn't undo decades of history and experience. ;-))

Does your real Ice Cream have any pups? It just so happens I might be in the San Diego area about a week from now, and I might want to stop by. I was pretty disheartened after finding out that my plants weren't Ice Creams and I want to get my hands on the real one by next season. I'll be willing to buy it off of you.

venturabananas · 11-04-2011, 12:48 AM

Cali, why be disheartened? Most likely, the majority of people who say "Ice Cream" is a great banana are probably growing something other than Ice Cream, from what people here have reported. Maybe the real Ice Cream (Blue Java) is nothing special and the "fake" Ice Cream (Pisang Awak) is what is great. We know Pitanga loves him some Pisang Awak (aka Misi Luki).

Pitanga, how do you think the real Ice Cream (Blue Java) compares in flavor to the fake Ice Cream that most people seem to have?

sandy0225 · 11-04-2011, 07:50 AM

would my ice cream be the real deal? it's tc from agristarts originally, but about 7 years ago?

caliboy1994 · 11-04-2011, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by sandy0225

would my ice cream be the real deal? it's tc from agristarts originally, but about 7 years ago?

It might not be. As of now, AgriStarts Ice Creams are not real. But since it was a few years ago it might be real. I think that today's AgriStarts Ice Cream is Tall Namwah.

sunfish · 11-04-2011, 11:08 AM

Sounds like the real deal to me

Agri-Starts, Inc. - Musa 'Ice Cream' (Blue Java)

venturabananas · 11-04-2011, 11:25 AM

Sandy, I think yours is a Namwah (Pisang Awak). The pictures of your fruit and the inflorescence show classic Pisang Awak traits and no Blue Java traits. The Agri-Starts description and photo look right, but that description is almost certainly not based on anything they grew (it's probably something they read in a book or found on the web); nor is the photo one they took of a plant they grew -- they just took the photo from someone who had photographed a real Blue Java. I'm almost certain that "Ice Cream" sold by Agri-Starts is not the true Blue Java, which would explain why so many folks on the org have the wrong plant.

Jack Daw · 11-04-2011, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Richard

It is difficult to get accurate answers from the personnel there. It is mostly staffed by well-meaning volunteers who operate on rumors.

The worst kind of personnel.

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