Share your roadside banana photos

ez · 10-20-2013, 06:33 PM

Two large mats very close together next to Flamingo road each mat has one bunch with a 10-12' p-stem. What variety do you think this is?

sunfish · 10-20-2013, 08:09 PM

Manzano ? Maybe

Musa Manzano - Bananas Wiki

ez · 10-20-2013, 10:22 PM

Sunfish if you mean Hawaiian apple it's very possible. The Manzano that I grow has a 7-8' p-stem and looks more like the first photo from Gabe15.

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The 'Manzano' have thin skin and more rounded fruits, whereas the 'Brazilian' has thicker skin and rather more angular fruit. But that doesn't really mean that what you had was either necessarily. The photo you show from Jon's site is 'Mazano'. It's really hard to say what variety you ate unless you could show us a photo of the actual fruit you ate, preferably on the plant. The fruit bunches look very different, here are some photos.

Manzano type, 'Ungoye Sweet'

'Santa Catarina Prata'/'Dwarf Brazilian' ("Hawaiian Apple"), one of the most common varieties in Hawaii.

sunfish · 10-20-2013, 10:35 PM

Venturabananas will set use straight

venturabananas · 10-21-2013, 11:31 AM

Well, since Sunfish put me on the spot...

My best guess is tall Brazilian (which is called Ladyfinger in Australia, or at least an extremely close relative is called that, and often called Ladyfinger in the US, Hawaiian Apple in Hawaii, etc.). The hands look too closely spaced to be Manzano. The bunch hanging at a 45 degree angle from the p-stem and then the rachis with a sharp downward bend are typical traits of Brazilian (but not exclusive to it). On the other hand, that would be one heck of a bunch for Brazilian, in terms of number of fingers and hands. So I'm not positive that it is Brazilian.

EZ, if your "Manzano" consistently fruits at 7-8', then it probably isn't Manzano, which typically fruits at 10'+. Hawaiian Apple (Brazilian) seldom fruits at less than 10'. That would be a typical height for Dwarf Brazilian (Prata Ana, Dwarf Hawaiian Apple). The fruit of Dwarf Brazilian and Manzano are easy to tell apart: thick peel for DB, thin peel for Manzano; and if Manzano is the least bit underripe (e.g., any green on the peel at all), it is essentially inedible because it is so astringent.

ez · 10-21-2013, 03:04 PM

Thank you Mark I'm going to start a new thread with more detail on my plant and maybe I will be able to give it a positive ID.

sunfish · 10-21-2013, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by venturabananas

Well, since Sunfish put me on the spot...

My best guess is tall Brazilian (which is called Ladyfinger in Australia, or at least an extremely close relative is called that, and often called Ladyfinger in the US, Hawaiian Apple in Hawaii, etc.). The hands look too closely spaced to be Manzano. The bunch hanging at a 45 degree angle from the p-stem and then the rachis with a sharp downward bend are typical traits of Brazilian (but not exclusive to it). On the other hand, that would be one heck of a bunch for Brazilian, in terms of number of fingers and hands. So I'm not positive that it is Brazilian.

EZ, if your "Manzano" consistently fruits at 7-8', then it probably isn't Manzano, which typically fruits at 10'+. Hawaiian Apple (Brazilian) seldom fruits at less than 10'. That would be a typical height for Dwarf Brazilian (Prata Ana, Dwarf Hawaiian Apple). The fruit of Dwarf Brazilian and Manzano are easy to tell apart: thick peel for DB, thin peel for Manzano; and if Manzano is the least bit underripe (e.g., any green on the peel at all), it is essentially inedible because it is so astringent.

I thought Brazillian had persistent bracts ?

venturabananas · 10-21-2013, 07:42 PM

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I thought Brazillian had persistent bracts ?

No, Dwarf Brazilian does, but not tall Brazilian and other full sized, close relatives in the Pome subgroup.

Richard · 10-21-2013, 08:55 PM

Now in terms of "Share your roadside banana photos" ... in some places you only need google street view! My neighborhood is a good example ...

Abnshrek · 10-21-2013, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by venturabananas

if Manzano is the least bit underripe (e.g., any green on the peel at all), it is essentially inedible because it is so astringent.

I can attest to that I tried one after I picked some up @ Fiesta in Dallas and spit it out, but tonight I noticed one had a split peel.. Man it was fantastic.. :^)

PR-Giants · 10-22-2013, 09:23 AM

Some Roadside Manzano Bunches

venturabananas · 10-22-2013, 11:31 AM

Maybe it is Manzano, based on Keith's photos. Try some just before they're full yellow and see if they are edible or not and you'll know if it is Manzano.

ez · 10-22-2013, 06:46 PM

Musa Blue Java (Ice Cream)

ez · 10-24-2013, 07:24 PM

Photos were taken at a local nursery the one with fruit has a 3' p-stem

PR-Giants · 10-24-2013, 09:25 PM

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Some Enano Gigante plants growing near the highway.

I didn't measure the height but they were about 3.5 feet.

jul 3 2012

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ez · 10-27-2013, 06:16 PM

There are two mats with fruit 8-9' p-stem

ez · 11-24-2013, 10:42 PM

Three large mats all of them have fruit at 5' p-stem looks like Dwarf Cavendish.

venturabananas · 11-25-2013, 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by ez

Three large mats all of them have fruit at 5' p-stem looks like Dwarf Cavendish.

I'd agree with that.

dana mastro · 11-25-2013, 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by ez

Musa Blue Java (Ice Cream)

that blue java pup looks exactly like mine! almost like a mirror image! WEIRD I should take a pic of it exactly how you did and you would be amazed

ez · 11-25-2013, 06:44 PM

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that blue java pup looks exactly like mine! almost like a mirror image! WEIRD I should take a pic of it exactly how you did and you would be amazed

I would like to see your Blue Java pictures and here are more photos I took that day.

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