sputinc7

They certainly shouldn't take that long... But you won't be giving them away for xmas, either.

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Varieties I supposedly bought: Manzano, Cavendish, Blue Java, Sweetheart, and Gros Michel.
What it seems I actually have: Brazilian, Cavendish, Namwah, Dwarf Red, Gros Michel, Pisang Ceylon, Veinte Cohol and SH 3640, and American Goldfinger. FHIA 1, Paggi and FHIA 17... Always room for one more.

sputinc7

Well, time for an update on my Dwarf Brazilian mat... Pup one has a bunch hanging which we will likely be eating in a few weeks, pup two is flowering now and has 2 hands already and pup three now has a flower poking it's head out. They go counter clockwise around the mat. Pup four looks like it is now putting out it's 3 foot pre flag, so I may just end up with all four pups producing at once. I find that very cool.

Here is the whole mat, for reference...Please note the 5th pup growing vigorously there in the front. Will likely be an early spring bloom.



Here is a pic of pups one and two together from a couple days ago...



Here is the newest addition to the family of flowers...



And last but not least, an update on pup 2 as of today, 9/22/16 with 2 hands already.

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Varieties I supposedly bought: Manzano, Cavendish, Blue Java, Sweetheart, and Gros Michel.
What it seems I actually have: Brazilian, Cavendish, Namwah, Dwarf Red, Gros Michel, Pisang Ceylon, Veinte Cohol and SH 3640, and American Goldfinger. FHIA 1, Paggi and FHIA 17... Always room for one more.

venturabananas

That's not Dwarf Brazilian, it's regular (tall) Brazilian. The leaves are way too elongate for DB.

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Well, here is the story... I bought this as a Manzano, but after my first bunch was hanging, Gabe took one look and told me Brazilian. I sent him another pic, and he reconfirmed it as Brazilian.
Dwarf Brazilian flowers at around 8-10 feet and has a dirty rachis and smallish fruit similar in size to Mysore, which is all true of these, except the rachis is nowhere near as messy as most people's pics, as the rachis only keeps some mess, but all the petals fall off and after 8-10 male sets, the rachis is clean after that.
Standard or tall Brazilian has a completely clean rachis and larger fruit, about 2/3 - 3/4 length fruits as well as fruiting in the 15-20 foot range. All these have flowered between 8-10 feet, so far.
I had not considered the leaves much before, I will do a little research and find out more.
I did some research, please see this thread... Dwarf Brazilian

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Varieties I supposedly bought: Manzano, Cavendish, Blue Java, Sweetheart, and Gros Michel.
What it seems I actually have: Brazilian, Cavendish, Namwah, Dwarf Red, Gros Michel, Pisang Ceylon, Veinte Cohol and SH 3640, and American Goldfinger. FHIA 1, Paggi and FHIA 17... Always room for one more.

venturabananas

I wouldn't get too hung up on height. Tall varieties can fruit short under a variety of circumstances. It is possible that yours is not "Tall" Brazilian because 8-10' is very short for that variety, but is definitely not Dwarf Brazilian. It has the wrong morphology -- and morphology is really what defines dwarfism. Dwarfs have shorter and broader leaves than their parent variety. Yours does not have those dwarf morphology leaves. And dwarf Pome varieties have very persistent bracts down the whole length of the rachis.

It may be an intermediate height morph of the Pome subgroup and not true Brazilian. I also bought something as Manzano that turned out to be a Pome, much like yours, but taller. Dwarf Brazilian and regular Brazilian are not the only varieties in the Pome subgroup, and yours could be one of those other varieties. In my climate at least, fruit size is not different between tall and dwarf versions of Pome varieties.

Whatever your is, it looks great. Nice bunches at a manageable height. I was my non-dwarf Pome varieties fruited at that height!

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Well, whatever they are, they seem cold hardy, fast growing and tasty, so I will be keeping them. We had a white roof and lawn last winter which knocked back a few weeds didn't bother it one bit. Had a bunch on and everything. Didn't even color the leaves. They taste similar to Mysore, only they are a bit bigger and not so closely bunched at the bottom.

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Varieties I supposedly bought: Manzano, Cavendish, Blue Java, Sweetheart, and Gros Michel.
What it seems I actually have: Brazilian, Cavendish, Namwah, Dwarf Red, Gros Michel, Pisang Ceylon, Veinte Cohol and SH 3640, and American Goldfinger. FHIA 1, Paggi and FHIA 17... Always room for one more.

robguz24

On equally happy plants DB fruit are larger than Mysore. I also don't get a difference in fruit size between the dwarf and tall.

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robguz24

FHIA-25 Nice sized rack, but nothing like on the FHIA info sheet for this cultivar. About 7' and 16 months to flower. Beautiful plant.


Huti (Shumba Nyeelu). Just an update with the yellow male bud. Just learned this is a M'shale cultivar. If it's a tasty as the Muraru M'shale then it's a winner. I think it has 8 hands and has grown much better than Muraru M'shale or Muraru Mulalu for me.

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They are at a very easy height to deal with. I can easily reach the bottom of the bunch. I can't say I know the fruit sizes are different, but I had read somewhere, likely on here, that the full size had bigger fruits. I also remember from my honeymoon that the "apple bananas" I had in Kauai were more like Chiquita size. They were my first taste of a "different" banana. I bet I ate 50 of them in that week.

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Varieties I supposedly bought: Manzano, Cavendish, Blue Java, Sweetheart, and Gros Michel.
What it seems I actually have: Brazilian, Cavendish, Namwah, Dwarf Red, Gros Michel, Pisang Ceylon, Veinte Cohol and SH 3640, and American Goldfinger. FHIA 1, Paggi and FHIA 17... Always room for one more.

Kat2

Your memories of your honeymoon are of different bananas you tasted? I get it but your wife must be a saint; if we ever get a potluck/plant swap/meet up organized, I'd love to meet her.

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Not just them, have you ever been to Hamura's down by the airport and had the special? It's saimin with extra meat... Mmmm MMmmm ... Nobody stateside makes Saimin... Not even Hawaiian restaurants!! I mean, come on, it's the state dish in Hawaii. Even McDonald's has it there.

Rant over.

I have lots of memories of Kauai, and many are in the 1300 pics I took in one week. The mangoes, pummelos the size of basketballs, I am NOT exaggerating! The chickens...Wild chickens. (We were told they are called "jungle fowl") Waimea canyon. The beaches, of course... And did I mention the delicious bananas?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubdJxw8wCrk