AZ41 - multi-purpose spray - Page 7

harveyc · 04-10-2009, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Richard

What if it was the same formula and same concentration for $20 per 2 litre? As a raw ingredient, lignosulfonates from melaleuca pulp mills cost only a few pennies above the shipping charges to the U.S.

What do you mean by "what if"? Do you know of a source for a manufactured product with the same ingredients? Where are you coming up with the $20 figure?

Chironex · 04-10-2009, 02:46 PM

I need to get some of this stuff.

hatfam · 04-10-2009, 06:12 PM

Just placed my order.

Can't wait to try it. Any chance this stuff will control mosquitos

I'd pay $200.00 a galllon to rid my deck of those little blood suckers.

Patty in Wisc · 04-10-2009, 07:54 PM

I think I'll get the big bottle! I want to pour some in my hair and, maybe a soak in the bathtub LOL. If it made my leaves look good in a day - what the heck! It's prolly cheaper than a good hair rinse LOL. The stuff smells nice too!

..Richard, I think Joe said there are patents or copyrights on this so if someone tries to copy it to sell for less than half, something would definately be missing from it & it wouldn't be as good.

Richard · 04-10-2009, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Patty in Wisc

... Richard, I think Joe said there are patents or copyrights on this so if someone tries to copy it to sell for less than half, something would definately be missing from it & it wouldn't be as good.

Patty, I have never said anything remotely close to the idea of someone copying the product.

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Originally Posted by Chironex

I need to get some of this stuff.

Yes, I'd like to try it on my grapes this year.

Chironex · 04-10-2009, 08:04 PM

I would be afraid that it would make me taller! And I am too old for the NBA. Maybe I will rub some on my piggy bank.

Patty in Wisc · 04-10-2009, 09:37 PM

Scot, it might make us turn green too! And, it'll get rid of any bugs we have LOL.
Richard, you said:
"Patty, I have never said anything remotely close to the idea of someone copying the product."

..And before that:
Originally Posted by Richard
"What if it was the same formula and same concentration for $20 per 2 litre?"
...Well, isn't that the same as copying? Or trying to?

I'm also confused about this 'Grow More'. You referred to them as "they" and then you referred to them as "my product". Did I read this wrong? or is 'your' product something different?

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Originally Posted by Richard

Interesting ... My product will be for hydroponic injector systems and not foliar spray.

What is in Grow More? Thanks

sirmoebly · 04-10-2009, 10:39 PM

Patty you are instigating, Chironex I already tried that (piggy bank) it didn't work... IF you have any other ideas let me know.....

Chironex · 04-10-2009, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by sirmoebly

Patty you are instigating, Chironex I already tried that (piggy bank) it didn't work... IF you have any other ideas let me know.....

I might bury it in biochar then.

sirmoebly · 04-10-2009, 11:05 PM

Just got done reading that thread bio char thats pretty good (las vegas stuff....)I got a laugh.....

harveyc · 04-10-2009, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Richard

Patty, I have never said anything remotely close to the idea of someone copying the product.

Richard, it's quite easy to interpret your statement as meaning that was what you had planned. Making vague comments often results in people drawing incorrect conclusions. It would be much more helpful if you made clear statements on what you mean.

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Originally Posted by sirmoebly

Patty you are instigating

Huh? I don't think so.

I visited Joe yesterday since I had other business in Davis and got myself some large bottles of AZ41 to experiment further. He shared some interesting results with a raisin grape farmers who was very happy with the results last year and now his neighbors have come on board. I hope this works out great for you and your partners, Joe!

Harvey

Richard · 04-10-2009, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Patty in Wisc

... What is in Grow More? ...

Patty,
Joe said he would be interested in a way to lower his costs in the production of his product without changing the formula. One of my suppliers believes that they can do just that, and gave a ballpark estimate. It is up to Joe whether he wants to pursue it or not. I have said many times in this thread that I have no interest in starting a manufacturing plant or contracting the production of anything with a pest control function. And it is also worth saying again that I believe that Joe has developed an excellent product.

"Grow More" itself is a manufacturing company headquartered in Los Angeles, CA. Here's a link: Grow More

Chironex · 04-10-2009, 11:16 PM

Can we move on now? Seriously, this is becoming monotonous.

harveyc · 04-10-2009, 11:19 PM

Thanks for the clarification, Richard.

To be honest, since you've said that you're working with Grow More in developing a hydroponic fertilizer I really wondered if they were going to come out with a product similar to AZ41.

Joe told me yesterday that the melaleuca oil in AZ41 is oil is extracted in a particular manner that is an important factor in the formulation, so that might make a difference.

When I look at the cost per acre of applying AZ41 on a commercial basis it is rather insignificant even if it is only moderately effective.

sirmoebly · 04-10-2009, 11:25 PM

Harveyc, don't get your feathers flustered I was just joking around. Everything will be alright......

harveyc · 04-10-2009, 11:30 PM

Moe, my feathers are fine but my hair is turning gray. However, that has nothing to do with this thread

Richard · 04-11-2009, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by harveyc

Moe, my feathers are fine but my hair is turning gray. However, that has nothing to do with this thread

Try Escitalopram.

harveyc · 04-11-2009, 12:14 AM

Will that make me younger??? I sure don't need anything for anxiety.

Maybe AZ41 would help, but I don't see a need for worrying about my gray hair.

sirmoebly · 04-11-2009, 12:42 AM

Well they do have some awesome color you can get now. (Just joking)

momoese · 04-11-2009, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by hatfam

Just placed my order.

Can't wait to try it. Any chance this stuff will control mosquitos

I'd pay $200.00 a galllon to rid my deck of those little blood suckers.

Look into CO2 generator mosquito traps. Here is a good article to start with before buying one. Btw our fearless leader "Mediahound" has one and says they work great for him.

Carbon Dioxide Mosquito Traps No Magic Bullet, Say UF Experts

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