a good soil for bananas

bikoro child · 12-05-2009, 04:47 AM

Hi every one,here is the type of soil that I use .. It is in fact the very cow manure decomposed giving a substrate very light, very rich and very draining, which is very suitable for growing bananas ... I never use fertilizer I just add that soil to the ground in winter for example ...

And you ?

conejov · 12-05-2009, 01:56 PM

Wow, that looks great! I am green with envy!

Richard · 12-05-2009, 03:08 PM

Cow manure has an N-P-K of about 0.2%, 0.1%, 0.2%. Adding about 10.5 cubic feet (0.3 cubic meters) per year of dried (but not seriously washed by rain storms) would be about right for 1 fruiting banana plant.

Dean W. · 12-29-2009, 02:42 PM

Looks great!

david2010 · 02-27-2010, 05:58 AM

mmm OKAY A NEWBIE HERE.HELLO ALLL YOU NANNAS..LOL
oKAY SO WE ARE ON A RUBBER FARM IN SOUTH tHAILAND AND HAVE PLANTED MISC TYPES OF BANANAS ( BEING FRON THE UK ORIGINALLY NEVER IMAGINED THERE WAS MORE THAN ONE!!) ANYWAYS THE SOIL IS CRAP MOSTLY SANDSTONE AND CLAY.. WE ARE ON THE SIDE OF A MINI MOUNTAIN ..MOST OF THE PLANTS WHICH MY THAI WIFE'S "AUNTY" GAVE US ARE GOING LIKE CRAZY..SOME HOWEVER JUST SIT THERE GLARING AT ME...WHAT REATION CHEMICAL FERTILIZER OR WHATEVER WOULD LIVEN 'EM UP. THEY ARE MOSTLY 'LADY FINGERS" PLUS A BUNCH OF ( NO PUN) MONKEY TYPES IE WILD WITH SEEDS ( MAYBE MAKE BANANA CAKE??)..AL HELP INVITED AND APPRECIATED...NOW BACK TO MY MANGOES

AND PRAWNS..LOL
CHEERS DAVID

Jack Daw · 02-27-2010, 07:16 AM

Good soil indeed. I use such a soil for tomatoes. Well now I am tempted to use vermicompost combined with this black gold.

katgum · 03-12-2010, 12:39 PM

I was about to do a post on soil additives, I saw your post. So thanks. Just one question, is most humus made out of cow manure?

Kat::

Abnshrek · 03-12-2010, 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by katgum

I was about to do a post on soil additives, I saw your post. So thanks. Just one question, is most humus made out of cow manure? Kat::

Well if you goto your local water treatment center it would be human waste compost or humus.. Here its $20 for a half a yard..

john_ny · 03-12-2010, 04:26 PM

The dictionary definition of humus is that it is partially decayed plant and animal matter; basically what you make in a compost pile. Of course, you wouldn't add animal matter to your compost pile, because of the stink and attracting vermin but, in the wild, if an animal dies in the woods, it just stays there and decays, and becomes part of the, well... humus.

Michael_Andrew · 03-12-2010, 06:53 PM

And I thought humus was a Lebanese dish made with chickpeas.

Michael

Abnshrek · 03-12-2010, 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael_Andrew

And I thought humus was a Lebanese dish made with chickpeas. Michael

Yeah its that too.. lol Like Coos Coos :^)

katgum · 03-13-2010, 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael_Andrew

And I thought humus was a Lebanese dish made with chickpeas.

Michael

I think it's just the way it's pronounced.

Kat

john_ny · 03-14-2010, 02:25 PM

humus = leaf mold, compost, etc.

hummus = middle eastern dish

Michael_Andrew · 03-14-2010, 05:53 PM

Thanks Johnny. I actually knew that already. I was just being a jokester. My wife is Lebanese and I get hummus all the time. Probable some in the fridge right now. Not sure I'd like humus on pita bread.

michael

sbl · 03-15-2010, 08:15 AM

Scientific definition: Humus (soil humus) is all organic natural matter in soil. Humic Acid is the water soluble fraction of organic matter that can be extracted by alkaline extraction (pH > 10), but precipitates at pH < 5. Fulvic acid is the water soluble fraction of organic matter that can be extracted by alkaline extraction but remains soluble at pH < 5.

Patty in Wisc · 03-20-2010, 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by john_ny

in the wild, if an animal dies in the woods, it just stays there and decays, and becomes part of the, well... humus.

I saw a show that put out a dead animal (deer? or as big as) in woods to see how fast it decomposed & they were to test how the soil was around it after it decomposed. Just a experiment. They came back less than a week later to see how far it got & the animal was infested with maggots. They showed maggots crawling in/out of every cavity & opening. It had so many inside, it looked like the animal was breathing!!! Soooo gross! All that was left to rot in the end was the fur & bones.
I don't know where it was they did this. Could be Africa or someplace tropical.

Abnshrek · 03-20-2010, 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Patty in Wisc

I saw a show that put out a dead animal (deer? or as big as) in woods to see how fast it decomposed & they were to test how the soil was around it after it decomposed. Just a experiment.

So was the ground more nutrient rich after the deer decomposed or exceedingly-rich in nutrients (Plenty of bone meal thats for sure)? :^)

Patty in Wisc · 03-20-2010, 03:40 PM

I didn't see that part or they didn't say any more. All they said was that the maggots got it before it decomposed naturally. I'd guess that maybe next time they would bury the thing. A dead animal left out will be eaten by something (usually). Bones would take a long time to compost... why we are still finding dinosaur bones LOL. The Indians here used to bury fish heads, guts & whatever for fert to grow corn. Leave them above ground & cats, raccoons, possum etc will eat them.

Worm_Farmer · 03-21-2010, 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Abnshrek

Well if you goto your local water treatment center it would be human waste compost or humus.. Here its $20 for a half a yard..

Do not grown anything you want to eat in Water treatment compost. Look what happened to Michelle Obama's garden. I did try to pick up a 5 gal bucket from my city's water / waste treatment and found that my worms didn't really care for it to much. Someone told me that is because it is high in metal's and will kill the microbiology of my soil in the yard. I do not know all the truth in this as I never sent a sample off to be test.

On a side note I am able to get City compost from the dump that is made from green waste. We also have a place to get composted horse manure, and I can get aged horse manure from local horse farms.

jfern · 06-25-2010, 04:18 PM

Acerca De Un Buen Suelo Para Banano O Platano Este Debe De Tener Ciertas Caracteristicas Fisico-quimicos Ls Cuales Son:

-buen Contenido De Materia Organica (4-10%)
-buen Drenaje Interno
-ph Entre 5.5-7.2
-profundidad De 1.5 Metros Esto Es Libre De Obstaculos Para Las Raices
-potasio Con 0.3 Meq/100 Gramos
-calcio 6 Meq/100 Gramos
-magnesio 2.0 Meq/100 Gramos
-fosforo Eadafico 10-30 Ppm
-boro 0.5 Ppm
-zinc 2.0 Ppm

Ppm= Partes Por Millon

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