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Old 08-26-2009, 07:01 AM   #1 (permalink)
 
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Here's two basjoos I planted in june. I first thought that the smaller one featured in the image had died since it had lost it's above ground parts and ordered a new one (the bigger one). I'm planning on digging the smaller one up and trying to keep the bigger one in ground for the winter even tho' it too is rather small.

I'm not sure how long the night temperatures will be above freezing here, could be anything from one week to two months I guess, so this might be the final size they reach this summer or not.

Next year I think I will have to create a new bench since I think this one is already too small with the two palms. I'm also thinking about getting a few other bananas next summer and planting them a whole lot earlier so I could get some decent growth.



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Old 08-26-2009, 08:20 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Sweet, what about those seedlings? Will you dig them up too? Is it Trachycarpus?
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Sweet, what about those seedlings? Will you dig them up too? Is it Trachycarpus?
The smaller one up front is a Sabal Minor and the one in the back is a Rhapidophillum hystrix. I'll also try to overwinter them in the ground. I also have five trachys and another rhapido that I'll try to overwinter. And some cacti. It'll prolly end up a genocide, but I figured It'll be worth the try _o/
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The smaller one up front is a Sabal Minor and the one in the back is a Rhapidophillum hystrix. I'll also try to overwinter them in the ground. I also have five trachys and another rhapido that I'll try to overwinter. And some cacti. It'll prolly end up a genocide, but I figured It'll be worth the try _o/
I'm no better killer, but zone 5 is zone 5, not like pushing limits with zone 8 palms to my border zone, but skip so much... Will be fun.
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I'm no better killer, but zone 5 is zone 5, not like pushing limits with zone 8 palms to my border zone, but skip so much... Will be fun.
I'll try to protect them well. Also there's atleast a few people here in Finland that have managed to overwinter bananas so what I'm mostly afraid is that the nana might not have a strong enough rhizome and the fact that I'm inexperienced with winter protecting plants with the fact that I don't have the plants here where I live, but at our summer cottage some 1,5 hours away so I can't react to changes in the weather that well. I do have Francko's book about zone pushing and I'll try to follow it accordingly. I'll try to take some pictures when I set up the winterprotection so that others can learn from my mistakes :-)
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... I'll try to take some pictures when I set up the winterprotection so that others can learn from my mistakes :-)
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+0c forecasted for tonight, I wonder how my nanas will look tomorrow when I go see them at our summer place. I guess it's time to set up a burlap enclosure if there's anything left.
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+0c forecasted for tonight, I wonder how my nanas will look tomorrow when I go see them at our summer place. I guess it's time to set up a burlap enclosure if there's anything left.
Frost already? Wow. We were told by older people that frost would sometimes come this early, but nights are usually around 13 to 15°C here, only one night will be an exception of going to around 9°C.
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Wow that's really fast BRRR...
Lucky Jack:P
Forecast over here is 7-8-9-12-12-8-11 that will be averaged a 9.6
I have one Basjoo in the garden, with 4 pups. Any chance of survival of these pups?

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Wow that's really fast BRRR...
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Forecast over here is 7-8-9-12-12-8-11 that will be averaged a 9.6
I have one Basjoo in the garden, with 4 pups. Any chance of survival of these pups?

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I believe the damage will be minimal. It starts getting bad at 3°C (water expands to maximum) and then below 0°C. No worries before these values. I have even tropical bananas outside and they are doing fine.
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I know, but i'm really sure temps over here eventually will drop below 0, that's what I'm worried about Right now all nanners except for M. Florida are outside. So that's Accuminata Sumatrana, Cavendishes, Basjoo, Basjoo Red, Dwarf Red, Siam Ruby, Ice cream and the "maybe-raja Puri"

They're doing fine, but in october I'll bring most of 'em inside.Below are the pics of the basjoo & pups





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Its starting to get colder here as well, we were close to our first frost of the year last night. Soon be time to put the bananas away for the winter. I shall be clearing out the greenhouse and insulating with bubble wrap this week end.



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Yay! First frost hadn't reached my basjoo yet. However later this week night time temperature should reach -2c so it was time to create a clumsy enclosure.




I'm really not sure will the winds blow that down, need to check that next weekend.




I also had to put some sticks around my mini greenhouse that protects my cacti from excessive rain. When I arrived the roof had blown off. Also mulched my palms a bit, even tho' it's not yet time for a full scale protection.
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..And now I just did some preparation for next year and just ordered two basjoo pups (which my friend will overwinter and try some pseudo-science comparison watering the other one with nuked water and the otherone with regular water, lol) and an Ensete maurelii that should be decently sized. I did enquire from another vendor too about some other plants, will see how that goes.
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Any idea if I should remove the 4 pups or leave them on? In winter temps are below 0 at night. Worst we had last year is -12
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What? Zero? Right now?
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no i'm happy it's 9! but the basjoo will stay outside in winter, ans so will the pups if I do not cut them off
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no i'm happy it's 9! but the basjoo will stay outside in winter, ans so will the pups if I do not cut them off
Precisely the same minimum as I had here. I wouldn't remove the pups, because our wet/freezing temps might cause the corm wound rot very quickly. Just keep it there and even if it dies, you won't risk rotting.
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Doh, the low forecast at the moment is -0, -3, -4, -3.. I think my protection has no chance against -4c, but time to prepare for next season then!
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Can U pot it? Try to save it somehow.
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