Alocasia Colocasia aroids. Etc.

Plantnutspringhill · 02-26-2013, 11:45 AM

I just joined a month ago and learning so much!!!
Would love to hear from any other Alocasiamaniacs also. I'm in Tampa Bay Area and having the damnest times finding other serious plant enthusiasts. I am CRAZY About bananas, alocasia Colocasia bromeliads etc. do if your near Tampa shoot me a message. Have lots of plants to trade with new friends but where are you???? Kinda bummed. Are there any Bay Area gardeners clubs that I'm missing ? Rain today. Yippee

hydroid · 02-26-2013, 01:36 PM

Jason, welcome to the forum, you should talk to Chris aka "Rmplmnz" he is over in your neck of the woods. I love the tropicals. My avatar is a Calocaisia Thai Giant. I have a few bananas, Elephant ears, and just recently started with Clumping Bamboo.
Bo

oakshadows · 02-26-2013, 06:08 PM

Bo, do the Giant Thia pup well? Do you get many if they do? Would you be interested in trading for one?
Good growing.

hydroid · 02-26-2013, 06:21 PM

Noah, I have not had good luck with pups, I took one a couple of years ago and thought it was far enough from the mama plant and both died right away. I have also tried taking the seeds from the spath and putting them in starter pots was able to get them just started sprouting and lost all of them. I got these originals from Brians Botanicals. But if I ever figure out how to make it work I will be glad to give you some.
Bo

pjkfarm · 05-02-2019, 05:20 PM

We have lots of pups on the Thai Giant - and very tough they are - maybe took 6 or 7 from a couple of them, and all survived (left those very close to the mama plant).

hydroid · 05-02-2019, 08:17 PM

I lost my Thai Giants a few years back along with most of my belongings in a flood. I had been living there since 1979 and never seen anything like it. It seemed the ground was just not suited for the Thai plants after that and never would live. They called it a 200 year flood. We were blessed that we made it thru safe. Those plants were amazing back in the day before the flood.

Iowa · 07-10-2019, 08:36 PM

The Thai Giants have been reclassified as Leucocasia Gigantea. I had a couple I wintered over 5 years, lost one last winter but had a couple smaller ones I started form seed that year. Started 20 from seed this year, and they are growing like weeds.

pjkfarm · 07-10-2019, 09:08 PM

Wow! Do you find that all the blossoms and then seeds reduce the size of the plant? We chop off flowers from our colocasias (the actually can work as cut flowers - same with philodendron - a wild ! flower!!) to force more energy into the plant (we think :-) Same for alocasias.
And THANKS for giving the new name, amazing how many plants are being changed around.
If you get any extra seeds this year we would love to get some (National Botanic Garden Foundation, 26175 Ticonderoga Rd, Chantilly, Va. 20152 Atten Peter Knop)

Iowa · 07-12-2019, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by pjkfarm

Wow! Do you find that all the blossoms and then seeds reduce the size of the plant? We chop off flowers from our colocasias (the actually can work as cut flowers - same with philodendron - a wild ! flower!!) to force more energy into the plant (we think :-) Same for alocasias.
And THANKS for giving the new name, amazing how many plants are being changed around.
If you get any extra seeds this year we would love to get some (National Botanic Garden Foundation, 26175 Ticonderoga Rd, Chantilly, Va. 20152 Atten Peter Knop)

I never have cut the flowers, they are pretty large stemmed I think the smaller yellow flowers on the Colocasia esculenta may work better in a vase, but they don't flower as often.

pjkfarm · 07-14-2019, 09:28 PM

Our esculenta stems tend to be a good bit longer, so work well in vases. The alocasia flowers are all pretty short and never been very successful for vase. Philodendron has zero stem (hard to cut), but what a flower, worth the extra work and they last a few days and get LOTS of comments from people who are open minded (and not seen them before). Strangely, they look very similar to the Thai giant (Leucocasia gigantea), need to check if same family

Linda_GER · 10-22-2019, 08:58 AM

Hi!

Any idea what this could be? Maybe Remusatia?

cincinnana · 10-22-2019, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Linda_GER

Hi!

Any idea what this could be? Maybe Remusatia?

Are you able to get a better photo of an individual leaf showing the pattern.?
Pick a leaf with the best pattern.

Linda_GER · 10-24-2019, 08:03 AM

I hope this will help...

cincinnana · 10-24-2019, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Linda_GER

I hope this will help...

Do your leaves look similar?

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Linda_GER · 10-26-2019, 01:20 PM

Quote:

Do your leaves look similar?

No. They are relatively thin, glossy, and I think I can exclude Colocasia.

Maybe it is possible for anyone of you to exclude Alocasia.

Thank you so far. :-)

pjkfarm · 10-27-2019, 11:04 AM

Looks like you have had these for some time so they should have a) flowered (yellow), and b) have strange looking stolons late summer/fall with hairy bulbils which can be rubbed off and start new plants. As the color of the flower is not very determinative (unless it is white or whitish which would suggest Alocasia), it would be the stolons which will assure you of a positive ID.

Linda_GER · 10-28-2019, 01:26 PM

Ok, I will have to wait for the flower and/or the stolons. Thank you. :-)

02-26-2013, 11:45 AM	#1 (permalink)
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02-26-2013, 01:36 PM	#2 (permalink)
hydroid Minister of Propaganda hydroid's Photo Gallery Location: Gulf Shores, Alabama Find me on the map! Zone: Zone -8b-9a Name: Bo Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 687 BananaBucks : 109,867 Feedback: 1 / 100% Said "Thanks" 775 Times Was Thanked 729 Times in 329 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 45 Times	Re: Alocasia Colocasia aroids. Etc. Jason, welcome to the forum, you should talk to Chris aka "Rmplmnz" he is over in your neck of the woods. I love the tropicals. My avatar is a Calocaisia Thai Giant. I have a few bananas, Elephant ears, and just recently started with Clumping Bamboo. Bo

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02-26-2013, 06:21 PM	#4 (permalink)
hydroid Minister of Propaganda hydroid's Photo Gallery Location: Gulf Shores, Alabama Find me on the map! Zone: Zone -8b-9a Name: Bo Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 687 BananaBucks : 109,867 Feedback: 1 / 100% Said "Thanks" 775 Times Was Thanked 729 Times in 329 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 45 Times	Re: Alocasia Colocasia aroids. Etc. Noah, I have not had good luck with pups, I took one a couple of years ago and thought it was far enough from the mama plant and both died right away. I have also tried taking the seeds from the spath and putting them in starter pots was able to get them just started sprouting and lost all of them. I got these originals from Brians Botanicals. But if I ever figure out how to make it work I will be glad to give you some. Bo

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05-02-2019, 08:17 PM	#6 (permalink)
hydroid Minister of Propaganda hydroid's Photo Gallery Location: Gulf Shores, Alabama Find me on the map! Zone: Zone -8b-9a Name: Bo Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 687 BananaBucks : 109,867 Feedback: 1 / 100% Said "Thanks" 775 Times Was Thanked 729 Times in 329 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 45 Times	Re: Alocasia Colocasia aroids. Etc. I lost my Thai Giants a few years back along with most of my belongings in a flood. I had been living there since 1979 and never seen anything like it. It seemed the ground was just not suited for the Thai plants after that and never would live. They called it a 200 year flood. We were blessed that we made it thru safe. Those plants were amazing back in the day before the flood.

07-10-2019, 08:36 PM	#7 (permalink)
Iowa Location: Burlington,Iowa Find me on the map! Zone: 5 Name: Mike Join Date: Dec 2016 Posts: 705 BananaBucks : 45,271 Feedback: 3 / 100% Said "Thanks" 571 Times Was Thanked 1,019 Times in 383 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 601 Times	Re: Alocasia Colocasia aroids. Etc. The Thai Giants have been reclassified as Leucocasia Gigantea. I had a couple I wintered over 5 years, lost one last winter but had a couple smaller ones I started form seed that year. Started 20 from seed this year, and they are growing like weeds. __________________ Growing Musa Orinoco since 1993 - Added 2018-Basjoo, Zebrina' Rojo, Ensete Red Abyssinian - Added 2019-Goldfinger - Added 2020-Kokopo (Short Cycle), Double (Mahoi), Highgate, Super Dwarf Cavendish - Added 2021-Pisang Ceylon(Mysore), Musa Margarita, Ensete Ventricosum - Added 2023 - Siam Ruby Last edited by Iowa : 07-10-2019 at 08:38 PM.

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pjkfarm Find me on the map! Join Date: Jan 2019 Posts: 238 BananaBucks : 14,345 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Thanks" 2,462 Times Was Thanked 224 Times in 131 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 102 Times	Re: Alocasia Colocasia aroids. Etc. Wow! Do you find that all the blossoms and then seeds reduce the size of the plant? We chop off flowers from our colocasias (the actually can work as cut flowers - same with philodendron - a wild ! flower!!) to force more energy into the plant (we think :-) Same for alocasias. And THANKS for giving the new name, amazing how many plants are being changed around. If you get any extra seeds this year we would love to get some (National Botanic Garden Foundation, 26175 Ticonderoga Rd, Chantilly, Va. 20152 Atten Peter Knop)

07-14-2019, 09:28 PM	#10 (permalink)
pjkfarm Find me on the map! Join Date: Jan 2019 Posts: 238 BananaBucks : 14,345 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Thanks" 2,462 Times Was Thanked 224 Times in 131 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 102 Times	Re: Alocasia Colocasia aroids. Etc. Our esculenta stems tend to be a good bit longer, so work well in vases. The alocasia flowers are all pretty short and never been very successful for vase. Philodendron has zero stem (hard to cut), but what a flower, worth the extra work and they last a few days and get LOTS of comments from people who are open minded (and not seen them before). Strangely, they look very similar to the Thai giant (Leucocasia gigantea), need to check if same family Last edited by pjkfarm : 07-14-2019 at 09:32 PM. Reason: left off something

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10-24-2019, 08:03 AM	#13 (permalink)
Linda_GER Linda_GER's Photo Gallery Location: Paderborn, Germany Find me on the map! Zone: 7a/b Name: Linda Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 322 BananaBucks : 5,691 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Thanks" 398 Times Was Thanked 183 Times in 83 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 18 Times	Re: Alocasia Colocasia aroids. Etc. I hope this will help... __________________

10-27-2019, 11:04 AM	#16 (permalink)
pjkfarm Find me on the map! Join Date: Jan 2019 Posts: 238 BananaBucks : 14,345 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Thanks" 2,462 Times Was Thanked 224 Times in 131 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 102 Times	Re: Alocasia Colocasia aroids. Etc. Looks like you have had these for some time so they should have a) flowered (yellow), and b) have strange looking stolons late summer/fall with hairy bulbils which can be rubbed off and start new plants. As the color of the flower is not very determinative (unless it is white or whitish which would suggest Alocasia), it would be the stolons which will assure you of a positive ID.

10-28-2019, 01:26 PM	#17 (permalink)
Linda_GER Linda_GER's Photo Gallery Location: Paderborn, Germany Find me on the map! Zone: 7a/b Name: Linda Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 322 BananaBucks : 5,691 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Thanks" 398 Times Was Thanked 183 Times in 83 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 18 Times	Re: Alocasia Colocasia aroids. Etc. Ok, I will have to wait for the flower and/or the stolons. Thank you. :-) __________________

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