Germinating passiflora seed

sunfish · 05-01-2009, 08:24 AM

Is it me or the seed. I purchased thirteen different varieties of passion vine seed from one ebay seller. The quadrangularis had close to 100% germination and some others about 50%. There were other s that had very low germination or none at all. So how do I know if it I am doing something wrong or if it is a problem with the seed.

Tog Tan · 05-01-2009, 08:39 AM

Tony, I think it's the seeds. I too bought a couple of species from a reputable on line vendor and had only the P morifolia pop.

sunfish · 05-01-2009, 08:50 AM

That is what I was thinking.I believe the Quad. is one of the most tropical of the passiflora.So if it germinated the conditions for the others must be favorable.

NotherNana · 05-01-2009, 06:29 PM

It is most likely the age of the passiflora seeds themselves. The fresher, the better. Are you using the soak in milk method first? Sometimes I do, sometimes I don/t. But even with the more uncommon species, I usually have high germination rates with fresh seed. Agree with the poster who first mentioned this, not you, it's the seed

sunfish · 05-01-2009, 07:09 PM

I soak the seeds in warm water for a few days,never used milk. You are right about the fresh seeds,I had good germination of my alata ,fredericks and blue passion flower from fruit. Great fishing in Ft. Myers ,I had a condo there Ft. Myers Beach. Quess I will try a different source for seed. Thanks

NotherNana · 05-01-2009, 09:08 PM

Many people scratch the seeds first to help with germination. Soaking them in milk first is supposed to help get the seeds to open. There are two schools of thought on this, some people do it, some people don't. If I have a very hard species variety then I will soak them first.
Others use actual passionfruit juice to soak them in, but some recent studies have shown that the juice actually inhibits germination, so i stick with milk

NotherNana · 05-02-2009, 02:22 AM

I forgot to mention, it's a PH thing with the milk. Water is usually neutral, milk is acidic, so helps to 'eat' at shell and promote breakage through and allow the seed to reach out and grow a root, and radical.

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